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All of these gentlemen look very stately and Presidential.

Guillianni hit one out of the park by saying that none of the leading three democrats have ever run a city, a state, or a business and it isn't the time for on the job executive training.

Ron Paul said that Fred Thompson would deplete the votes in his favor because he is the only anti-war Republican Candidate.

Right now, they are having a row about illegal immigration. I don't believe they will actually do anything they say, however.

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Ron Paul said that Fred Thompson would deplete the votes in his favor because he is the only anti-war Republican Candidate.


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What?

I didn't tune in until just now. Thompson said he would have acted basically the same as Bush in Iraq.

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Ron Paul just talked about personal responsibility, property rights, the second amendment and the incompetance of the federal government with regard to security on airlines. He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out.

It went over well.

Now they're talking about family values and social experiments.

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Rudy is really coming off as pompous.

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That comment about him voting for McCain probably did not play well with people.

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Mitt: "...our soldiers are the bravest and most patriotic in the world..."

What the hell does that even mean?

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I don't know.

He's definately taking every opportunity to stump for his candidacy. I don't really feel he's answering the questions asked.

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I took that as an attempt to be a good sportsman.

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

Idiotic

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Ron Paul with a nice anti-war speech there.

And wow awesome strawman by foxnews man.

Also, this crowd is getting pumped.

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Mitt: "...our soldiers are the bravest and most patriotic in the world..."

What the hell does that even mean?

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Ron Paul just set up a strawman about the genocide that would occur if we withdrew from Iraq. -2 points. He's almost come unglued about the war. He just got hammered by Hume. And a counter attack about the constitution. Did not play well. This is good [censored].

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

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But the crowd liked it.....

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

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Why? You don't think airlines are capable of protecting their planes?

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This has been 10x more exciting than any dem debate debacle.

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Ron Paul just got baited on Iraq. He fell in the trap. Points to Brownback. Although Pual did recover toward the end of it.

Pual is not doing as well as he has previously.

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Paul is gonna have a rough time with the crowd not being on his side and being the only guy on stage to not spew non-stop bull stuff.

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Strawman countered by another strawman... Hmmmm....

He accused Paul of letting Al Queda determine our agenda.

I'm going to ponder that one. Not so sure of the strawman aspect of that statement. One of the best strategies for fighting a war is to keep your enemy playing your game. So far we are doing that more to them than they are to us. I'll chew on it.

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Yeah, Paul is doing ok considering everyone is against him. There's a good amount in the crowd that cheered for his anti-war stance and want the war ended, but most are pro war. All of the other candidates are playing the "we must support the troops and see this though for America" card. I thought Paul had some good points.

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Ron Paul just got baited on Iraq. He fell in the trap. Points to Brownback. Although Pual did recover toward the end of it.

Paul is not doing as well as he has previously.

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wtf are you serious? Everything Ron Paul said was perfect. His only problem was that he lost his cool a little.

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That was a really rough clip for Romney, that deputy grilled him pretty good.

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Ouch!

Romney just got pwned by a guy who has a kid in Iraq. No way he can even respond. He's babbling about success of the surge. Pandered about the military. Not good. Not Presidential. He should have talked about the importance of the election process and how his kid is making that process work.

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He did. He stepped in [censored].

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Yeah, Paul is doing ok considering everyone is against him. There's a good amount in the crowd that cheered for his anti-war stance and want the war ended, but most are pro war. All of the other candidates are playing the "we must support the troops and see this though for America" card. I thought Paul had some good points.

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I agree. But, I don't think he's delivering them well.

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Pwned.

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

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Why? You don't think airlines are capable of protecting their planes?

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Are they capable? Yes. Would they do it as effectively and as cost efficiently? No. Would most foreign airlines be as diligent without US requirements in order to land? Not a chance.

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ex,

Yeah paul looked a little frazzled tonight.

Can anyone else hear audible laughing on the microphones? Whomever is doing it is rather immature.

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Anyone else find them selves screaming at the TV "Your an IDIOT!!!#^$%$*U#&" ?

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

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Why? You don't think airlines are capable of protecting their planes?

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The bigger concern is the safety of the people and property those planes are capable of crashing into. I'm not saying the government would necessarily do a better job, but you have to wonder whether an airline that is on the verge of insolvency would be tempted to cut security corners to make ends meet. The difference between airlines and most other economic transactions is that the threat of PUBLIC harm from the malfeasance or negligence of the company is much greater. GM makes a bad car and maybe a couple of people die. If an airline has poor security thousands of people could die and there could be economic damage in the hundreds of billions. And what happens if they're busto?

There's much more nuance to this issue then simply "Let the airlines take care of it."

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Anyone else find them selves screaming at the TV "Your an IDIOT!!!#^$%$*U#&" ?

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So far only when RP is on, though I did miss a bit while i was making dinner

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Anyone else find them selves screaming at the TV "Your an IDIOT!!!#^$%$*U#&" ?

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I bet there's a liberal hate fest somewhere that everyone is doing that.

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lol, they are surprised that if you torture the hell out of someone then set them free they may fight fight back when they are out.

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So far only when RP is on, though I did miss a bit while i was making dinner

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Is there any manipulation of applause like what you see on TV shows? I havent been into debates this much since...well ever actually. Just seems like something incoherrent and meaningless is said and people start applauding.

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Taxes and spending round.

Paul should shine here. Libertarian views on taxes rock.

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LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! No way McCain ever vetoes all the pork barrel bills.

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

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Why? You don't think airlines are capable of protecting their planes?

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Are they capable? Yes. Would they do it as effectively and as cost efficiently? No. Would most foreign airlines be as diligent without US requirements in order to land? Not a chance.

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I bet that the airlines are all for the government bearing the cost to provide the security. Any good business will externalize costs whenever possible.

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"He says you should make the airlines responsible for the safety of their passengers and keep the government out. "

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Why? You don't think airlines are capable of protecting their planes?

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Are they capable? Yes. Would they do it as effectively and as cost efficiently? No. Would most foreign airlines be as diligent without US requirements in order to land? Not a chance.

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I see where you are going with this but consider the idea of how important it is for airlines to assure safety. It is essential for their survival of a comapny to convince its people that their service is 100% assured. I feel the government and their buraucracy tends to slow things down.

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Why? You don't think airlines are capable of protecting their planes?

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A terrorist could much more easily kill more people at a baseball game, a rock concert, a mall, etc. -- all protected by private security provided by the operating business.

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Rudy is laughing at Paul non stop. He is a complete total douche.

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Rudy is laughing at Paul non stop. He is a complete total douche.

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Must be payback for the last time Paul wiped the floor with him.