tpgk faces a big bet on the river
 

villain is complet unknow to me and he just sat down. i have seen him playin before and he has a fullstack so i assume he not terrible.

Blinds: $5/$10
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $831.55
HERO: $3.233.25
SB: $270
BB: $1.000

Pre-flop: (4 players) HERO is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $40</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $200</font>, BB calls.

<font color="red"> u like raising here vs. unknown? </font>

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($485, 2 players)
BB checks, HERO checks.

<font color="red"> bet the turn or pot control? </font>

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($485, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $350</font>, HERO ???

<font color="red"> i might prolly outlevel myself but i think i have to call this, right? </font>

Re: tpgk faces a big bet on the river
 

bump

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hm...someone...maybe?

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tough, i can see the turn as a whiffed crai by him w/qt kq 33 etc and i can also see him firing a missed draw, but j9 did get there

i think i fold here bc theres not much you beat

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Should've checked flop and bet turn. Your hand on the flop is primed for a big pot if you hit the nuts, and turn is the street to build it. Flop raise either makes him fold, or he calls and is in front. Unless you complete the straight on the turn then you're in a difficult spot.

If you raise this flop then follow up with a turn raise especially if he checks. You're the big stack here and a PSB on the turn will make him fold most hands, plus you have enough outs if he calls. As played it's just a bad spot on the river now.. I wouldn't feel good calling or folding.

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I'd fold, I don't see him value betting worse, and it doesn't look like he's bluffing either

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yeah it really looks like he has you beat

i hate your flop raise

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i dont mind a flop raise bc it buys you a freecard on the turn while bumping the pot a bit so if you hit its easier to get ai...but that said im def not in love with it

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We beat nothing here, almost always a fold.

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turbo fold. i like flop raise btw.

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Hmmmm nobody thinks a missed flush draw is a pretty big part of his range? After checking turn I feel like you have to call this river. I really cant see why everyone is saying fold. IM only worried about J9hh and KQ possibly or something where he did miss the C/R AI on turn

Also betting turn might be good, but its tough because he may c/r a flush draw on the turn and we are in a tough spot.

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i think a good bit of his range here is a whiffed crai on the turn with 33, kq qt j9 .. and that riv bet screams value, i fold this to an unknown and dont really think to much about it, i think if you weight his hands that he bets on the river (ie not qt,at,t9 tj bc i dont think most ppl turn those hands into bluffs) it leaves you with a very small % of hands you beat, mainly axh or similar FD's, and his other holdings are far more likely imo

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hmmm. I can see why you raised the flop, but I think I prefer to look like a float with AK/AJ there. I call the 50, controlling the pot size. You to to a turn with 185 vs 485. If he gets weird, get out, else you can bet when he checks or raise him here. If he sticks it in, fold and nh sir.

I think I fold the river, but I wouldn't like it. Looks too much like he hit his q and something else. the whiffed c/r turn would make a lot of sense.

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i think a good bit of his range here is a whiffed crai on the turn with 33, kq qt j9 .. and that riv bet screams value, i fold this to an unknown and dont really think to much about it, i think if you weight his hands that he bets on the river (ie not qt,at,t9 tj bc i dont think most ppl turn those hands into bluffs) it leaves you with a very small % of hands you beat, mainly axh or similar FD's, and his other holdings are far more likely imo

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I don't think 33 and q-10 cold call oop on a board like that very often, same goes with any other big hands IMO, so to cold call hed either have to have a draw - j9, kj, or hearts - more hearts in his range and ur getting the right odds so id call, its very possible he has kq also though but i still think ur ahead enough to justify a call. Pretty borderline though as ur asusming that he def bets his busted hearts and his kj, both not certain, but i think likely enough to push this towards a call

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i snapcalled and lost to 33
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