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g-p 10-09-2007 08:34 PM

ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
its early and i dont know the guy.

people fold AK and stuff here right??

Seat 1: KeelyBones (2910 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: fhaugen (6140 in chips)
Seat 3: BMH v.2.37 (3140 in chips)
Seat 4: pairDboard21 (2920 in chips)
Seat 5: FishList_net (2980 in chips)
Seat 7: BrokenTPot (2745 in chips)
Seat 8: gp333 (4325 in chips)
Seat 9: dblgutshot (1820 in chips)
BMH v.2.37: posts small blind 10
pairDboard21: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [8h 6h]
FishList_net: folds
BrokenTPot: folds
gp333: raises 40 to 60
dblgutshot: calls 60
KeelyBones: folds
fhaugen: folds
BMH v.2.37: folds
pairDboard21: raises 155 to 215
gp333: calls 155
dblgutshot: calls 155
*** FLOP *** [7s Th 5d]
pairDboard21: bets 320
Glomlien is connected
gp333: calls 320
dblgutshot: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Th 5d] [Td]
pairDboard21: checks
gp333: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s Th 5d Td] [5c]
pairDboard21: bets 555
gp333: raises 3235 to 3790 and is all-in

0evg0 10-09-2007 08:39 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
this looks like QQ+ always, and that folds never

i dont see why you think AK is really even worth mentioning

ASPoker8 10-09-2007 08:40 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
I think QQ+ folds more than ppl think here

g-p 10-09-2007 08:44 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
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this looks like QQ+ always, and that folds never


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if QQ is calling then Ak probably should

Requin 10-09-2007 08:51 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
Curious why you chose this instead of barreling turn and river?
Also I think QQ >> AK here.

g-p 10-09-2007 08:54 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
i prob mix up turn 50 50
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Also I think QQ >> AK here.

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he prob thinks im an unknown here, and unknowns dont value shove 99 on this riv. some people shove counterfeited pairs though, which is why AK/QQ would call

Requin 10-09-2007 08:59 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
Yeah I was thinking pair turned bluff, but I included 99 in that range... value? Really?
Fwiw I think the turn/river barrel is alot more credible than this line.

Bakes 10-09-2007 09:00 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
i think its fine if you have the unknown image

0evg0 10-09-2007 09:31 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
i'm under the impression that villain is a random, is this correct?

if so, why are we assuming a random is capable of folding QQ on a T high board?

g-p 10-09-2007 09:37 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
cuz hes playing in a 1k online mtt

Bond18 10-09-2007 09:57 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
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Yeah I was thinking pair turned bluff, but I included 99 in that range... value? Really?
Fwiw I think the turn/river barrel is alot more credible than this line.

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I agree, i think bet turn+shove river looks more believable.

Mench 10-09-2007 10:50 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
i think you get called here almost always.

Pudge714 10-09-2007 11:30 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
I think this is really good in theory, but meh in practice.

registrar 10-10-2007 04:52 AM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
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people fold AK and stuff here right??



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Yes.

I like it although I'd like it more if we had a read on villain as to whether betting turn is better. If I'm villain and you bet turn, I'm just going to price myself in with QQ whereas if you take this line, I'd probably fold the river since you can only have a boat.

Edit: all of this said, I've just OPR-ed the guy and your "ZOMG $1000 buyin FE" is minimal.

ZJ123 10-10-2007 04:54 AM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
villain is pretty good, so he might fold, but im not sure i like it!

g-p 10-10-2007 10:52 AM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
mother [censored] had AT and didnt give me credit for 5555

aaaaaaaa 10-10-2007 01:22 PM

Re: ps 1k, standard bluff ??
 
this is pretty crazy but what bout potting turn and calling a shove you would be getting more than 4 to 1 when he shoves on u u get him off all overcards he cant c/r u and maybe he folds some of his PP. does he ever 3-bet 99,88 here im guessing he doesnt just wondering.


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