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dirty banana2007 11-19-2007 02:56 PM

What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Which book would you vote for as being the best poker book published in 2007?

Is there one that stands head and shoulders above other releases?

fraac 11-19-2007 02:59 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
What are the contenders?

dirty banana2007 11-19-2007 03:07 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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What are the contenders?

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Any book, poker related, published in 2007 that you thought was the best... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

fraac 11-19-2007 03:17 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Here is 2007 according to Amazon. I would add a poll but 2007 isn't finished. I'll do one for 2006, then we will KNOW FOR SURE WHICH IS BEST. Which is important.

"Killer Poker By the Numbers: Mathematical Edge for Winning Play" by Tony Guerrera

"The Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide" by Michael Craig

"Farha on Omaha: Expert Strategy for Beating Cash Games and Tournaments" by Sam Farha and Storms Reback

"EARN $30,000 PER MONTH PLAYING ONLINE POKER: A Step-by-step Guide to Single-table Tournaments" by Ryan Wiseman

"Omaha High/Low Poker" by Bill Boston

"Championship Hold'em Satellite Strategy" by Tom McEvoy and Brad Daugherty

"The Picasso Flop" by Vince Van Patten and Robert J. Randisi

"Women's Poker Night: Stories and Strategies from the Feminine Side of the Felt" by Maryann Morrison

"Winning in Tough Hold 'em Games: Short-Handed and High-Stakes Concepts and Theory for Limit Hold 'em" by Nick "Stoxtrader" Grudzien and Geoff "Zobags" Herzog

"Limit Hold'em: Winning Short-Handed Strategies" by Terry Borer, Lawrence Mak, and Barry Tanenbaum

"Advanced Limit Hold'em Strategy: Techniques for Beating Tough Games" by Barry Tanenbaum

"Sit 'n Go Strategy" by Collin Moshman

"Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume I" by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller

"Kill Everyone: Advanced Strategies for No-limit Hold 'em Poker Tournaments and Sit-n-go's" by Lee Nelson, Tysen Streib, Kim Lee, and Joe Hachem

"Your Worst Poker Enemy" by Alan N. Schoonmaker

"The Poker Mindset: Essential Attitudes for Poker Success" by Ian Taylor and Matthew Hilger

"How to Dominate $1 and $2 No Limit Hold 'Em" by Sam O'Connor

"Hold'em Wisdom for all Players" by Daniel Negreanu

dirty banana2007 11-19-2007 04:17 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Thanks Fraac, i should have put a list in.

And yes, your right, the year isnt completely over, so there is still a chance someone else will have a book published before the year is out!

binions 11-19-2007 04:26 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Haven't read Kill Everyone. Among the others, PNL is the best, with the Stox book, Full Tilt strategy guide and the SNL book all valuable additions to the literature.

sanjstreet 11-19-2007 04:53 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
is Kill EVeryone out yet? i looked on amazon and it says January '08 for release, unless its different in the USA

1p0kerboy 11-19-2007 06:02 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
"Winning in Tough Hold 'em Games: Short-Handed and High-Stakes Concepts and Theory for Limit Hold 'em" by Nick "Stoxtrader" Grudzien and Geoff "Zobags" Herzog

phydaux 11-19-2007 07:22 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
PNL, although there are several contenders that I haven't read.

fraac 11-19-2007 07:34 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Out of the few I've read, I most liked the Full Tilt Strategy Guide, but I expect to appreciate the Stox one very much.

finesseQ 11-19-2007 07:37 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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is Kill EVeryone out yet? i looked on amazon and it says January '08 for release, unless its different in the USA

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Yes and it gets my vote, with the Full Tilt one a second. Haven't read Stox's since I don't play limit.

choccypie 11-19-2007 09:03 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Of the ones that I've read, PNL gets +1 vote.

Adman 11-19-2007 09:25 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Limit hold em: Winning shorthanded strategies by Terry Borer and Lawrence Mak & Stox's book for sure.

Gelford 11-20-2007 01:57 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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"Winning in Tough Hold 'em Games: Short-Handed and High-Stakes Concepts and Theory for Limit Hold 'em" by Nick "Stoxtrader" Grudzien and Geoff "Zobags" Herzog

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And it's not even close [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

bigblackbuddha 11-20-2007 02:01 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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"Winning in Tough Hold 'em Games: Short-Handed and High-Stakes Concepts and Theory for Limit Hold 'em" by Nick "Stoxtrader" Grudzien and Geoff "Zobags" Herzog

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And it's not even close [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Unless you don't play limit. However if you do play limit, QFT

Doc T River 11-20-2007 09:20 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Unless someone beats me to it, I am going to go on Amazon when I get home from work, put together a list of books supposedly coming out in 2008 (so yes, Daniel's book will be included) and make a post dealing with what people consider the most anticipated poker books of 2008.

By the way, I checked the abbreviations and did not find it listed so I am wondering what QFT stands for. My guess would be Quit (physical activity) Talking.

deacsoft 11-20-2007 09:56 AM

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I am wondering what QFT stands for. My guess would be Quit (physical activity) Talking.

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Can also be used as "Quoted For Truth".

1p0kerboy 11-20-2007 12:09 PM

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and make a post dealing with what people consider the most anticipated poker books of 2008.


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For me (and many others), it's easily the Harrington books on no-limit cash games.

shyturtle27 11-20-2007 12:34 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Few months ago it would be PNL with SNG strategy a close second, but it is officially Kill Everyone.

Mason Malmuth 11-20-2007 01:11 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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Unless someone beats me to it, I am going to go on Amazon when I get home from work, put together a list of books supposedly coming out in 2008 (so yes, Daniel's book will be included) and make a post dealing with what people consider the most anticipated poker books of 2008.


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Hi Doc:

Just so you know, it's our policy at Two Plus Two not to list on Amazon until we have an acceptable manuscript in hand and are confident we can meet our announced publishing date. So even though we have books scheduled for 2008, none are as yet listed on Amazon.

Best wishes,
Mason

terry0222 11-20-2007 02:00 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Sit 'n Go Strategy (Collin Moshman) is the superior book on Sit-n-Go tournaments. Very focused. A different approach than Kill Everyone. I just liked the writing style a lot more.

Traveller99 11-20-2007 03:11 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
My list of 2007 books that I liked, in order, covering more than half of the 2007 books I read. I skipped all Limit-specific and Omaha-specific books this year and focused on NL Hold'Em Tourney and Cash :

Kill Everyone
Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume I
Sit 'n Go Strategy
The Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide
How to Dominate $1 and $2 No Limit Hold 'Em
The Poker Mindset: Essential Attitudes for Poker Success

1p0kerboy 11-20-2007 04:24 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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Unless someone beats me to it, I am going to go on Amazon when I get home from work, put together a list of books supposedly coming out in 2008 (so yes, Daniel's book will be included) and make a post dealing with what people consider the most anticipated poker books of 2008.


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Hi Doc:

Just so you know, it's our policy at Two Plus Two not to list on Amazon until we have an acceptable manuscript in hand and are confident we can meet our announced publishing date. So even though we have books scheduled for 2008, none are as yet listed on Amazon.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Mason,

Have the titles or authors been announced yet for the books that 2+2 is planning on publishing in 2008?

'boy

Doc T River 11-20-2007 06:59 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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Unless someone beats me to it, I am going to go on Amazon when I get home from work, put together a list of books supposedly coming out in 2008 (so yes, Daniel's book will be included) and make a post dealing with what people consider the most anticipated poker books of 2008.


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Hi Doc:

Just so you know, it's our policy at Two Plus Two not to list on Amazon until we have an acceptable manuscript in hand and are confident we can meet our announced publishing date. So even though we have books scheduled for 2008, none are as yet listed on Amazon.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Mason (may I call you Mason?),

I thought about this before you posted and I had this thought. I am going to include Harrington On Cash because I anticipate that it is going to win and to leave it off would be a major omission. I am going to make a provision for other unknown 2plus2 books by including a category Any other 2plus 2 books. I am going to post a disclaimer that this is an unofficial list and inclusion on the list does not indicate a book will see the light of day in 2008.

Good idea?

FoxInTheHenHouse 11-20-2007 06:59 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
What’s the best book? That’s an awfully broad question. Answers will depend on what people get most out of the books they’ve read and they’ll give their opinions without reading all the books on the list. So a lot of it will depend on which books they’ve selected to read and they could have missed the “best one”.

Then there is the fact that some people read to learn - good for them - and others read just to see if the author agrees with them. If the author doesn’t agree with them, then it’s a “bad book”.

The best part of the answers to this thread may be that we’ll get a demographic that shows just what the forum members are reading these days.

In one sense, the “best” book is Sam O’Connor’s “How to Dominate $1 and $2 No Limit Hold 'Em” because it contains unquestionably the best rhetoric of any poker book, ever, and it is both informative and entertaining. It’s an easy read. Also, at 416 pages it is the best volume buy ($22.50 at Professional Poker). The book stresses playing people and, while confusing at first, it’s like a good wine; it finishes nicely. Dominate holds the best value.

Some members will be looking for something else. Other books will be selected according to what games, and at what levels, forum members play.

We’ll have answers from those favoring books on small limit and those who read books on high limit (Tanenbaum?).

Then there are those who play no limit. They will choose a book that either fits their formulaic approach (PNL perhaps) or the psychological approach (maybe Your Worst Enemy).

Then there are the tournament players who will have a completely different group of selections (Harrington?).

Anyway, by finding out what people are reading and what it is they like, we’ll find out what members are playing these days. And at what level they read and play.

This is a good thread.

Tim Peters 11-21-2007 02:46 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Here are my nominees for 2007 books:

For tournament poker: the anthology Michael Craig edited, "The Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide.
For cash games: "Professional No-Limit Hold'em: Volume I" by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller.

Here are links to my reviews (which appeared in Card Player magazine) for both:

Card Player review: The Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide



Card Player review: Professional No-Limit Hold'em: Volume I

Ruy Lopez 11-21-2007 11:09 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
Cash: "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume I" by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller

STT: Moshman

MTT: FullTilt Strat Guide

Tim Peters 11-21-2007 11:52 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007? [Novels]
 
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"The Picasso Flop" by Vince Van Patten and Robert J. Randisi


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I reviewed The Picasso Flop book for Publishers Weekly, to wit:

Van Patten, a host of TV's World Poker Tour, has teamed with veteran mystery writer Randisi to create what may be the first novel billed as a "Texas Hold'em Mystery" with so-so results. The action takes place during a major poker tournament at the Bellagio in Las Vegas, and Jimmy Spain—recently released from prison—is there both to play and to coach 22-year-old Kat Landrigan, the talented daughter of a man Spain did time with (part of a pointlessly complex backstory). But the tournament is interrupted by two murders, and, for reasons that strain credulity, Spain is asked to look into the matter. The title refers to the three playing cards discovered with each body: a jack, a queen and a king, which, when dealt together, are sometimes described as a "Picasso flop" in hold'em. Spain is an engaging, likable character, and some of the poker scenes are done with flair and knowledge, but the loose plot doesn't do justice to the fine concept.

There is a better poker mystery (but not much better) called Dead Money by Randy Stegemoeller, and then there is solid poker mystery by Pete Hautman titled The Prop.

The best poker-themed novel (at least from the perspective of an actual poker player) has to be Shut Up and Deal by Jesse May. It definitely captures the pre-Internet life of the grinder and contains dozens of quotable observations about poker like this one:

Poker is a combination of luck and skill. People think mastering the skill part is hard, but they’re wrong. The trick to poker is mastering the luck. That’s philosophy. Understanding luck is philosophy, and there are some people who aren’t ever gonna fade it. That’s what sets poker apart. And that’s what keeps everyone coming back for more....

I've posted a page about that book:
Shut Up and Deal

Doc T River 11-21-2007 07:29 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007? [Novels]
 
One series I like is the Tony Valentine series by Swain. There is a three book story set around a fictional stand-in for the WSOP. I sold off about twenty-some boxes of books so I cannot give you the exact titles of all the books off the top of my head, but I do remmeber one was Deadman's Bluff.

Coy_Roy 11-22-2007 03:47 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007? [Novels]
 
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The best poker-themed novel (at least from the perspective of an actual poker player) has to be Shut Up and Deal by Jesse May. It definitely captures the pre-Internet life of the grinder and contains dozens of quotable observations about poker like this one:

Poker is a combination of luck and skill. People think mastering the skill part is hard, but they’re wrong. The trick to poker is mastering the luck. That’s philosophy. Understanding luck is philosophy, and there are some people who aren’t ever gonna fade it. That’s what sets poker apart. And that’s what keeps everyone coming back for more....

I've posted a page about that book:
Shut Up and Deal

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Thanks for all that, I'm going to definitely procure a copy.

dwf76 11-22-2007 06:52 AM

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Cash: "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume I" by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller

STT: Moshman

MTT: FullTilt Strat Guide

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Doc T River 11-22-2007 09:21 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
I forgot what the title of this thread was when I posted about the Tony Valentine series of books. I don't think the three parter I was talking about came out in 2007, but came out much earlier. Still an enjoyable read, though.

Albert Silver 11-22-2007 10:50 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
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Cash: "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume I" by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller

STT: Moshman

MTT: FullTilt Strat Guide

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Psychology: Your Worst Poker Enemy (outstanding)

SuperUberBob 11-22-2007 04:09 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
1. PNL
2. WITHG
3. FT Tournament Edition

SeanC 11-22-2007 08:28 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
NLHE TAP & Mathematics of Poker.

SuperUberBob 11-23-2007 03:56 PM

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NLHE TAP & Mathematics of Poker.

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Published in 2007. Both of those books were published in 2006. At least NLHE: TAP was.

ohio 11-24-2007 12:22 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
any guesses how many poker books were published in 2007? and what was the total number before 2000?

TheScientist 11-25-2007 12:09 AM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
1 more vote for Stox's book, WITHG.
I also liked PNL.

Albert Moulton 11-25-2007 04:24 PM

Re: What was the Best poker Book published in 2007?
 
I vote for "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume I" by Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, and Ed Miller.

deacsoft 11-26-2007 09:49 PM

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A poll was recently created in this thread on this subject. Please continue to have all discussions regarding this topic (or the poll) in this thread. Thank you.


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