KK - Valueland or spew?
 

Villain is extremely loose and aggro ( ~ 50/20/2.0 over 300)


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (8.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (14.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero caps!</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 22.00 BB

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

with that read on him i like it okay.

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

i think i play the same
sometimes i might cap turn,
but i play 6 or 8 tables

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

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i think i play the same
sometimes i might cap turn,
but i play 6 or 8 tables

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Non sequitur? Maybe it's supposed to be a brag...

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

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with that read on him i like it okay.

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BBB, what would you do without a read? Does it change the turn play to a call? Does it change the river play?

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

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i think i play the same
sometimes i might cap turn,
but i play 6 or 8 tables

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Non sequitur? Maybe it's supposed to be a brag...

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no, but i play more automatic and dont think about specific opponents, meaning i might be misplaying sometimes so take it for what its worth

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

If that villain played 57 and donked his OESD on the flop you will get it back. Easy to say I might have just called the 3 bet on the river but probably not true. I think I would have capped with top set.

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

I play it the same with the read you have.

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

Looks fine.

I probably play it the same without a read. Wouldn't most .5/1 villains play 66/44/KQ like this?

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

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Looks fine.

I probably play it the same without a read. Wouldn't most .5/1 villains play 66/44/KQ like this?

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Yeah, after he treyed the turn, I though it highly likely that I was against a set.

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

:g:

I'm not sure that I make an == between agroo and spewy, but I raise the turn and call the 3-bet. River I think Vils holds a set or a str8 but his range is scewed more to a set and he plays them the same so I dont think jamming the river is wrong. Nice catch fish.

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

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with that read on him i like it okay.

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i probably play it the same regardless ... if the guy donked the flop with a straight draw - then well (so be it)

retards play TP like this all the time ... sets, two pair (which he really could have any combo on the board!)

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

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i think i play the same
sometimes i might cap turn,
but i play 6 or 8 tables

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Non sequitur? Maybe it's supposed to be a brag...

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no, but i play more automatic and dont think about specific opponents, meaning i might be misplaying sometimes so take it for what its worth

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Capping turn is spew even against this opponent... capping w/out a read is beyond spew and by no means "automatic" or standard!

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

Remy, I play it the same. NH.

Buzz

Re: KK - Valueland or spew?
 

I don't get the question here. Where would we consider spew to occur?

If you capped the turn its a valid question but you didn't so where did the spew occur?