Trips gone wrong
 

Hi I'm new to stud and am playing in a stud Hi tourney. Did I do anything wrong here ? Or did I just get unlucky ?

Tournament - 7 Card Stud High (30/60), Ante 5, Bring-In 10 (converter)

Seat 1: 1,410
Seat 2: 1,840
Seat 3: 840
Seat 4: 1,450
Seat 5: 1,890
Seat 6: 2,090
Hero: 1,470
Seat 8: 1,010

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___raises

4th Street - (17.33 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___double-bets___calls

5th Street - (24.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls

6th Street - (40.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls

River - (56.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls 15 (all-in)

Total pot: (71.92 BB - 4,315)

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

i can't think of a reason to call third, especially with a dead king. It is really an awful call given the action.

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

lol donkaments

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

fold 3rd

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

Son of beyond the realms of the bride of turboinstafold3rd.

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

[x] Play money donk-n-go hand.

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

Thanks for all the responses. I'm very new to stud so I appreciate any help. In response to 2461badugi no it wasn't play money; however, considering it was only a 5.50 tourney on FTP it was pretty close. I almost felt like I was playing bingo. Perhaps this is because I am so inexperienced at stu, but I felt like a lot of people felt that as soon as they were in a pot they had to keep calling to the river. I guess the 3 bet on third was a strong indicator that a pair of dueces wasn't good.My thinking on calling was that I thought well it was only so much to call and if I spike a duece on 4th I'm great if not I'm out. I now realize this mindset is incorrect. I'm probably giving away bets this way and if I do spike the 3rd deuce like I did it is probable that it won't hold until the river.

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

Your assesment of ppl calling to the river is correct. Once a couple of raises go in a hand low level tournaments hands become hang on for dear life scenarios. any set will hold up a fair amount in a 4 way or less hand in stud. The problem with lower sets is the reversed implied odds situation. It is the same reason why calling down with lower pair against big pair is very risky. You lose when you dont hit and you lose more when you both hit.

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

Thanks chucky. I think this turned into a lose more when you both hit situation and ultimately crippled me in the tourney (not that I was really expecting to get much out of that tourney other than experience).

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

No problem. 3 flush and 3 straight hands are really good to play in massive multi-way pots.

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I also recommend a fold on 3rd, but as played I think it would be better to bet out on 4th and hope to get raised by a pair of aces than to try to suck everyone in with a check-raise. Trip 2s is a very vulnerable hand, and would be better to play it as shorthanded as possible.

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I agree with trips being vulnerable, but in these donkaments players peel 4th with horrible hands on the time so betting 4th may not thin the field much and may stop other hands from betting.

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As the panel has pointed out, third is a ridiculously easy fold. Even if it was only one bet instead of two, you should probably get out. Read 7CS4AP. Puke.

I'd probably just bet out on fourth. Having checked, when it's three bets back to you, I'd be a little concerned that maybe I didn't have the best hand. I'm not suggesting that you fold or anything, and if these guys are complete idiots, then capping is fine.

I'm pretty sure that I've never check/four-bet in my life. If I did, I wouldn't expect a check-raise to work on the next street. Having check-raised and seen 7QK three-bet, you might want to take a step back. You have a paired door card and have been playing aggressively. He doesn't seem to care. He should have a set. Now it wouldn't surprise me if it were two pair or even less, but I would slow down here. When he makes an open pair on sixth, a full house is possible--with many opponents, probable. I'm not suggesting that you fold, but I think that raising is pretty spewy. Unless this guy was a known imbecile, I wouldn't even raise after filling.

Re: Trips gone wrong
 

its also a tournament. I mean this is a very bad play in a cash game with all that raising, but for a tournament. You obviously have not heard of the GAP theory