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so long story short i need to find a place for a girl i know to go to detox. she has no insurance and no money so i will be paying. if anyone knows about places that are free or gov't subsidized that would be great too.

google doesnt help much because a lot of them look kind of gimmicky and i'd rather send her somewhere that an outside source recommends.

just to be clear i'm not looking for a 30-90 day treatment facility just detox.

any help is much appreciated as the situation is urgent. i have faith in our oot la drug addicts.

also sry no pics - she's very hot when healthy, but she has hep c so...

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just to be clear i'm not looking for a 30-90 day treatment facility just detox.

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You do understand opiate addiction, right? This statement makes no sense whatsoever.

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You do understand opiate addiction, right? This statement makes no sense whatsoever.


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uhh yeah - it makes perfect sense. i'm not paying 100k to send her to promises. she has been in multiple rehabs and will ultimately wind up back in some type of longer term setting, but for today or the immediate future i need to get her in somewhere with a bed and meds and medical staff until i can figure out what to do.

thanks for your help though (lol).

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just to be clear i'm not looking for a 30-90 day treatment facility just detox.

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You do understand opiate addiction, right? This statement makes no sense whatsoever.

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I believe he is looking for a place where she can go though withdrawal. I've seen people at the detention centre dealing with the first 24 hours and it is scary.

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thanks for your help though (lol).

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Dude, I am trying to help. I've been there.

So, you spend the money for 4-5 days in detox, she gets released, stays clean for a bit, then she shoots up, snorts, smokes, or whatever again, and where are you? Exactly where you are today.

That's the way opiate addiction works. I take it this isn't the first time you've seen this pattern, right?

What is your goal with going just detox?

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I believe he is looking for a place where she can go though withdrawal. I've seen people at the detention centre dealing with the first 24 hours and it is scary.

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It's very scary. I understand his short-term goal, I think. But what's the point in putting a band-aid on a gaping wound?

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Dude, I am trying to help. I've been there.

So, you spend the money for 4-5 days in detox, she get's released, stays clean for a bit, then she shoots up, snorts, smokes, or whatever again, and where are you? Exactly where you are today.

That's the way opiate addiction works. I take it this isn't the first time you've seen this pattern, right?

What is your goal with going just detox?

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yeah i realize she won't get "cured" in a week and that her sobriety will be a daily commitment for the rest of her life etc..

i also realize that often the only solution for chronic relapsers is long term inpatient treatment.

my immediate goal is to buy myself some time until i can find a longer term solution. her family has written her off (for now), but if i am able to help her at least get headed in the right direction, then maybe they will get re-involved. mapping out her lifetime sobriety seems a bit ambitious for a friday afternoon.

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mapping out her lifetime sobriety seems a bit ambitious for a friday afternoon.

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I hear ya. Re-reading your prior post, I see she's done the rehab thing before, so you know the drill.

There is no point in true rehab until SHE wants it, and means it. It sounds to me like you're just trying get her detoxed now before she kills herself. This is certainly admirable, in my opinion.

I wish you the best. You've got a very tough road ahead of you.

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A lot of rehab places don't have a detox center, so her options will be a LOT wider once she's detoxed.


Sorry I can't help with placement.
Best of luck.

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Dre said it was coming out in '04, but its been pushed back to next summer.

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ass to ass?

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Detox is just the first miserable step. She will need treatment beyond detox. Contact your community mental health center. Every state has a system, and they will be able to help. If she is destitute, there will be money to get her tx. If she has a job, and some $$, but not enough to pay for tx, it may be harder.

Of course, if you need to do everything for her, she may not be ready. Good luck.

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Just get her addicted to methadone ldo

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Luckily for your friend, heroin withdrawal will not kill you.

Ironically, the only withdrawal that has that possibility is alcohol, which is a legal drug. Go figure.

Good luck finding your girl a place to go, you might be best off calling your local narcotics anonymous chapter and asking for a place she can detox.

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Dre said it was coming out in '04, but its been pushed back to next 2027.

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Seriously though, best of luck la.

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I think methadone might be the best solution for this girl.

Opioid Treatment Program Directory

http://dpt2.samhsa.gov/treatment/directory.aspx

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I think methadone might be the worst solution for this girl.


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Methadone is most definitely NOT the answer (unless the question is "What's the worst possible way to get off of heroin").


edit: Methadone withdrawal can take weeks (as opposed to a few days for heroin withdrawal). If someone is going to keep taking opiates forever, Methadone is the least destructive. If they are going to be coming off of opiates at some time, then Methadone is a terrible choice.

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Methadone withdrawal actually can last a month or more. Heroin withdrawal will last a week--maybe a little more.

Suboxone is a great drug for opioid users. It blocks the brains desire for the drug as well as offsetting a good portion of the withdrawal symptoms. You'll still get the muscle aches and a little sickness but it's doable that way. Since you said she's been to rehab, she probably knows about Suboxone.

If a person is going to quit, they'll ultimately have to do it themselves. All the rehab in the world won't matter to a a person if they don't truly want to quit.

just my two cents.

cheers,
Benny

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If someone is going to keep taking opiates forever, Methadone is the least destructive. If they are going to be coming off of opiates at some time, then Methadone is a terrible choice.

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I think methadone might be the worst solution for this girl.


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Methadone is most definitely NOT the answer (unless the question is "What's the worst possible way to get off of heroin").


edit: Methadone withdrawal can take weeks (as opposed to a few days for heroin withdrawal). If someone is going to keep taking opiates forever, Methadone is the least destructive. If they are going to be coming off of opiates at some time, then Methadone is a terrible choice.

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Please, everyone should refrain from saying what it best or worst for this person. She needs to get to a treatment center and THEY will help her.

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thanks for your help though (lol).

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Dude, I am trying to help. I've been there.

So, you spend the money for 4-5 days in detox, she gets released, stays clean for a bit, then she shoots up, snorts, smokes, or whatever again, and where are you? Exactly where you are today.

That's the way opiate addiction works. I take it this isn't the first time you've seen this pattern, right?

What is your goal with going just detox?

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Is there some special sort of LA dope that permits you to kick in 4-5 days?

If there is, I'd like to go on record as actively reconsidering my "absolutely-no-heroin-under-any-circumstances" rule.

Now it just seems silly.

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I think methadone might be the worst solution for this girl.


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Methadone is most definitely NOT the answer (unless the question is "What's the worst possible way to get off of heroin").


edit: Methadone withdrawal can take weeks (as opposed to a few days for heroin withdrawal). If someone is going to keep taking opiates forever, Methadone is the least destructive. If they are going to be coming off of opiates at some time, then Methadone is a terrible choice.

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Please, everyone should refrain from saying what it best or worst for this person. She needs to get to a treatment center and THEY will help her.

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Very well stated.

Methadone has been (perhaps rightfully) demonized. While the kick is longer when the time comes (I remember kicking an 80 mg maintenance habit after "tapering" down to 15 mg and being shocked that I was still just as sick on day twenty as I was on day ten), but it allows the junkie to function a HELL of a lot better and without the constant risk of arrest when they're an active opioid addict.

That said, I would never use Methadone if I were to wake up strung out again. My last (and FINAL) kick, I just got a case of Gatorade and a bunch of Klonodine, and locked myself away. Ten days, turned inside out, and sure, I felt like I had fallen down a flight of stairs, but I didn't feel, uh, that other way anymore.

Good luck with your friend.

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Luckily for your friend, heroin withdrawal will not kill you.

Ironically, the only withdrawal that has that possibility is alcohol, which is a legal drug. Go figure.

Good luck finding your girl a place to go, you might be best off calling your local narcotics anonymous chapter and asking for a place she can detox.

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Don't want to derail the thread, but just for clarification, withdrawal from many barbiturates can also cause death.

Good luck with your friend

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Luckily for your friend, heroin withdrawal will not kill you.

Ironically, the only withdrawal that has that possibility is alcohol, which is a legal drug. Go figure.

Good luck finding your girl a place to go, you might be best off calling your local narcotics anonymous chapter and asking for a place she can detox.

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Don't want to derail the thread, but just for clarification, withdrawal from many barbiturates can also cause death.

Good luck with your friend

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Ever seen "I'm Dancing As Fast As I Can?" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084111/

Watch out for the benzos too, I guess.

The best rule of thumb is to avoid at all costs ever having to withdraw from anything, whether nicotine, gambling, dope, food, or relationships.

Take a walk in the park or at the beach. It's nice.

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Does this girls first name start with an H?

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Thinking more longterm. my bro was addicted to OC and has had great results using suboxin. It's somewhat of a new age methadone but much easier to wein off after a yr or so of sobriety

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but she has hep c so...

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Hawt imo

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off-topic, but I'm curious what your relationship with this girl is that you're the one who is responsible for her.

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does she enjoy riding swongs?

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off-topic, but I'm curious what your relationship with this girl is that you're the one who is responsible for her.

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off-topic, but I'm curious what your relationship with this girl is that you're the one who is responsible for her.



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it's really not very much. we met prob a year or so ago. she was interested in me, but i found her really annoying. anyway, over time she tones it down some and i also learn more about her life - which was/is pretty out of control - and it becomes clear to me that she had little choice about the way things turned out for her. father was a drug addict, she was raped multiple times by guys in her school - just sick stuff. so i wound up liking her a lot once i understood where it was all coming from.

nothing romantic has ever happened and we probably only talk once a month or so, but i don't have tons of people in my life, so all the ones who are would get the same treatment.

also, just as a disclaimer, i am a retard when it comes to money. i spend way too much money on stuff that is completely unnecessary, so when something like this comes up i don't really deserve any great credit from a financial perspective. if i didn't do this i'd buy a bunch of shoes or something.