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Nielsio 11-29-2007 07:25 PM

FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
#1

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $483.25
Hero (SB): $232.40
BB: $37
UTG: $255.90
MP: $27.25
CO: $225.20

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, Hero calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($23) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $13</font>, Hero calls $13, CO folds

Turn: ($49) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($49) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $35</font>


CO is 80/25/0.6/120 bleeder

BTN is 19/15/3.4/954, 3% 3-bet.




#2

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $98.30
BTN: $201.10
Hero (SB): $324.60
BB: $200
UTG: $77.55
MP: $296.95

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($84) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($84) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $50</font>


BB is 18/16/3.1/299

(note: PL)

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 07:35 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
1: auto fold. although i don't know he wouldn't bluff the Q. but whatever...u beat nothing.

2: flip a coin. i'd probably fold though.

PUBgrub 11-29-2007 07:53 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
you have no idea where you are in either hand. if you think 77 is good repop on flop...same goes for TT. dont be such a calling station.

the way you played them i am folding both rivers.

Trikkur 11-29-2007 07:57 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
Hand 1 I fold

Hand 2 ...... I'm not sure, I switch it up between calling and folding depending on my image, history with opponent, etc

ProkkeR 11-29-2007 08:05 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
1. i can see him trying to rep a flush by betting that high with just 22-88, 55 is also in his range of course. i cant see him with a flush given the bet amount. btw dk if a call there is profitable
BTN is 19/15/3.4/954, 3% 3-bet. how do u get the 3bet %?

2. fold, i try to avoid hero call spots without history
i also hate pf. 3bb open from the sb is standard for you? i prefer 4x from sb since we are oop

donkeykong2 11-29-2007 08:24 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
i fold both,
i d raise preflop in hand one to isolate the bleeder.

bilbo-san 11-29-2007 08:28 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
[ QUOTE ]
you have no idea where you are in either hand. if you think 77 is good repop on flop...same goes for TT. dont be such a calling station.


[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. Keep playing your marginal hands like the nuts. Good luck with that.

HaiaN 11-29-2007 08:31 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
[ QUOTE ]
you have no idea where you are in either hand. if you think 77 is good repop on flop...same goes for TT. dont be such a calling station.

the way you played them i am folding both rivers.

[/ QUOTE ]

zomg this is SO horrible.
fold both.

Jay Riall 11-29-2007 08:36 PM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
Fold both, though the first hand is way closer.

DefiNe 11-30-2007 01:29 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
[ QUOTE ]
you have no idea where you are in either hand. if you think 77 is good repop on flop...same goes for TT. dont be such a calling station.

the way you played them i am folding both rivers.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow gl making money

AllIn3High 11-30-2007 01:35 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
I'd fold the flop in hand 1 because there's still loose CO left to act, things are usually gonna get ugly on the turn.

Hand 2, sucky river card, it being bvb might lead me to call some times here, but folding is fine too.

quarkncover 11-30-2007 02:13 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
Nielso,

Good to see you've continued to work so much on your game and are now successful at 200NL.

I have been out of the online poker world for sometime now, nevertheless I can't resist the allure of 2+2 and would try some very different things in these hands.

In hand 1 I think leading the river is an interesting and higher EV decision.

In hand 2 I would lead flop often, this being dependent of villain's 3-bet preflop frequency.

You don't include your table image (stats from this session would be helpful.) Such information always greatly affected my decisions, against some opponents betting the river in hand 1 would be horrible. I have PT at 0500 in the morning tomorrow and really need to hit the rack, but will hit this thread up over lunch tomorrow.

Best wishes,
Quark

Nielsio 11-30-2007 05:13 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
Results:

I am villain in both hands. Hand one I have 22 and TAG villain folds quickly. Hand two I have 7h8h and villain calls with AdKd (lol). I thought that villain was TAG also, but turned out to be much laggier, like 26/19 and fold to 3-bet% of 30%, which is extremely low.

Nielsio 11-30-2007 05:15 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Nielso,

Good to see you've continued to work so much on your game and are now successful at 200NL.

I have been out of the online poker world for sometime now, nevertheless I can't resist the allure of 2+2

[/ QUOTE ]



Thanks! I remember your username from a long time back.

gbporkpie 11-30-2007 05:52 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
Why didn't you bet the turn in both hands? Especially hand one.

Skuzzy 11-30-2007 06:02 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Results:

I am villain in both hands. Hand one I have 22 and TAG villain folds quickly. Hand two I have 7h8h and villain calls with AdKd (lol). I thought that villain was TAG also, but turned out to be much laggier, like 26/19 and fold to 3-bet% of 30%, which is extremely low.

[/ QUOTE ]


You are villain in hand 2 so when you say you had 78, and the Hero has TT who has AdKd?

Nielsio 11-30-2007 06:03 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Results:

I am villain in both hands. Hand one I have 22 and TAG villain folds quickly. Hand two I have 7h8h and villain calls with AdKd (lol). I thought that villain was TAG also, but turned out to be much laggier, like 26/19 and fold to 3-bet% of 30%, which is extremely low.

[/ QUOTE ]


You are villain in hand 2 so when you say you had 78, and the Hero has TT who has AdKd?

[/ QUOTE ]


Nobody had TT.

nath 11-30-2007 06:23 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
why do this, just post the hands as played. is there something you want to learn? ask the questions you want to learn the answers to instead of making people guess at scenarios that didn't actually happen. (and hoping to find your answer amongst theirs.)

Nick Royale 11-30-2007 07:50 AM

Re: FT200 I can has showdown? No?
 
Fake hands: Fold both, I don't think they're very close you're usually getting towned by these type of players.

Real hands: Bet 22 on the turn. It's way better than betting the river imo, draws possible, higher fe vs higher pairs etc.


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