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When playing at a table with someone you recognize as a 2+2'er is it correct etiquette to give a 'sup bro' so they at least know you know who they are and something about how they play from their posts? Or would most 2+2'ers prefer any anonymity they have in case others at the table do not know who they are?

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I usually greet/acknowledge if I know someone is a poster but if no response or if I think they'd just rather have their space I find a different table. I really enjoy playing with some though when I think they don't mind.

The clumsiest for me is when someone who's screen name I don't recognize greets me other than sup or hola because then I'm not sure if they post here or what's up.

I had one this morning who greeted me something like "take it easy on me Bona this is my first day" I replied "what do you mean", hoping to get some kind of identity swap but instead he turned really rude and pretty soon left the table with an unkind remark. Go figure.

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Just to be on the safe side I wouldn't acknowledge, if someone thinks I am being rude then they can take it up on this board, and besides, I always have chat disabled because I think it is -EV anyway. I would seek another table anyway for obvious reason of not wanting to be in a -EV situation.

But in a hypothethical situation where I would be playing against 2+2er who wouldn't have a clue I know him to be a 2+2er---I would be donking more than usual to pick up some pots.

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Meh. You should always give a "sup bro"! You sit down at a live table with somebody you know, do you not say hi? If you think it's going to be -EV for you to play at the table with the guy, you have the option of leaving. He has the same perogative. The fact of the matter is that at a full table, unless you're sitting right next to each other, your opportunities to tangle are going to be so limited as to not make any difference in all likelihood.

That said, if you sat at the table, said "sup bro", then stopped chatting and took the first opportunity to move to my immediate left I'd probably be offended. So, if you don't like having chat on, maybe just leaving the table is your best bet.

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When playing at a table with someone you recognize as a 2+2'er is it correct etiquette to give a 'sup bro' so they at least know you know who they are and something about how they play from their posts? Or would most 2+2'ers prefer any anonymity they have in case others at the table do not know who they are?

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I don't use the chat at all.

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Don't suck out on the river (OBV) [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I wouldnt holla people at the table, primairly because it doesnt look so good when two people at the same table appear to know each other.

Dropping a 2+2ism in the chatbox seems fine.

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The clumsiest for me is when someone who's screen name I don't recognize greets me other than sup or hola because then I'm not sure if they post here or what's up.

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Reminds me of college. Small school, and I was, uh, infamous. The number of times somebody would sit next to me in a lecture and start in with, "Dude, that game of foosball three weeks ago was so awesome...," and I'm sitting there wondering what the hell their name is. I actually ran into a classmate in an airport about 3 months ago whose face I recognized but couldn't remember his name; we talked old times for about two hours, drinking beers and waiting for our flights; didn't figure out his name until I got home and checked the yearbook.

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That said, if you sat at the table, said "sup bro", then stopped chatting and took the first opportunity to move to my immediate left I'd probably steal your blinds relentlessly.

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FYP!

I always throw out a sup bro, but personally it doesn't matter to me one way or another as I'll figure out your playing style pretty quickly if I don't already know you are a bro.

To all of those that "instantly" start looking for another table, well, that is pretty dumb. A table can have a bunch of TAGs/2p2ers and still be a great table depending on the other cast of people and your position relative to them. So don't just leave because a 2p2er sits at your table.

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I always throw out a sup bro when I recognize a 2p2er. Quite a few times I get no response. Most of the time they're multitabling/bonus whoring, the rest of the time they don't know me so w/e.

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I say "hi" to 2+2ers all the time. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Of course, I also say "hi" to non-2+2ers, too! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Worst thing you can do: Softplay against them or actively cheat.
Best thing you can do: Mock them relentlessly when they play different than they post.

Usuall thing to do: Give a holla and play your game remembering that chat is -EV.

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I don't use the chat at all.

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qft

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I only use the chat to abuse someone who sucked out on me, is that -EV too?

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most definitely that is the worst offense actually. Say nh or something like that or say nothing, berating your opponents costs you money.

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most definitely that is the worst offense actually. Say nh or something like that or say nothing, berating your opponents costs you money.

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I agree! Berating someone who is playing badly but sucks out on you is just plain dumb. You don't want them to play differently or even worse leave the table.

Doc

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most definitely that is the worst offense actually. Say nh or something like that or say nothing, berating your opponents costs you money.

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I agree! Berating someone who is playing badly but sucks out on you is just plain dumb. You don't want them to play differently or even worse leave the table.

Doc

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Berating good 2p2ers that suck out, OTOH, is teh nuts!

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most definitely that is the worst offense actually. Say nh or something like that or say nothing, berating your opponents costs you money.

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I agree! Berating someone who is playing badly but sucks out on you is just plain dumb. You don't want them to play differently or even worse leave the table.

Doc

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Berating good 2p2ers that suck out, OTOH, is teh nuts!

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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sup bro?

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4937/1230xu.jpg

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most definitely that is the worst offense actually. Say nh or something like that or say nothing, berating your opponents costs you money.

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I agree! Berating someone who is playing badly but sucks out on you is just plain dumb. You don't want them to play differently or even worse leave the table.

Doc

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Berating good 2p2ers that suck out, OTOH, is teh nuts!

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Now, that is a totally different situation. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Doc

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When I was starting out on the 0.5-1 tables at stars, some 2+2er used to 3bet me on principle and value bet me all session long. He was ruthless...

edit: dude, dont put other 2+2ers poker room SNs in a post without their permission.

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Sure thing [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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i hardly ever use the chat.

when i do its just one way where i type things like "ur an idiot" and still cant see what i typed.

i havent given a supbro in a long time.

if you know a player as a poster who studies the game then use that information just like you would any other noted player. they probably arent the worst player at the table unless they travel by bus and suck at heads up poker.

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I would think that proper etiquette would mandate for you to take their money just as you would any other player =D

Rig

An equal opportunity gambler.

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I have never said what's up bro, I used to know a few but I don't remember who they are anymore. I have run into a few who's call signs are the same as they are in here but can't be sure they are the same person or not.

motts PT sucks with 100k hands in it.

I have 6 players who qualify in my db for the last year to play SLAA (which is what I play at 6 max) and only 2 of them are profitable.

I have 3 players who qualify as TAA and 2 of them are profitable.

That doesn't mean that their aren't more 2=2er's I am up against but they haven't shown themselves against me playing properly for 100 hands on PS.

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I have never said what's up bro

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obviously. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

fwiw, i like playing with 2+2ers. usually you can take your game to the next level on the thinking stand point. it's actually fun to play with thinking players every once in a while.

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Even though I hardly use chat, except to write "ty" or so, when I am playing only 1 table, reading the chat of the other players can be quite entertaining. I even sometimes put a little note "chatter" on a player, usually that is not a good note for that player [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Always 6 or so TAGs every time I sit down, so I'm sure I'm playing with plenty of 2+2ers. I don't know any by name though and don't check.

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I have had some great fun chatting at tables. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I have usually done this on very low limit tables such as .02/.04 or something like that, after I have had a few beers.

I even met a 2+2 er on one of those tables once !

I think that sometimes we tend to forget that poker can be a very sociable game ! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Always 6 or so TAGs every time I sit down, so I'm sure I'm playing with plenty of 2+2ers. I don't know any by name though and don't check.

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DB...it is probably more likely that you are just playing against a bunch of tighties who really arent that good at poker but just wont spew chips that much. My evenings is daytime in Europe and I see alot of players like this which really makes game and seat selection important because all their crazy cousins seem to have migrated to 6max instead. Theyve probably signed up to some pokerschool and/or got a preflop chat and have learn the following
1. Raise good hands
2. Raise a few more when it is folded to you in late position
3. call when drawing.
4. Slowplay monsters/sets til the turn
5. Dont bluff raise
6. Dont respond when someone says nh [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

in short, tight and a bit aggressive doest not mean 2+2er and your probably being too generous when you call them tags....14/7/1.5 is not a TAG in ozzies world.....

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You're right, I was being generous. As you explained there's a difference between a player with a decent PF game and a TAG.
Still not the players I want to sit with though.

edit: Although I'm sure there are a few 2+2ers in there. I see a lot of the same faces and there aren't many FR games running at my site/limit.

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Once, I played a hand against someone, blinked a couple times as I looked at the sn, then shot off a pm on the 2p2 boards:

"Dude, don't open-limp in the CO. Especially when I'm on your left!"

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who's played against me in the past? S/N MoheganSun on PS

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who's played against me in the past? S/N MoheganSun on PS

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U R A FISH.

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lol tyvm

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Sorry lotsa wine tonight couldn't resist.

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sean:

clockwise or counter?
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/41127/

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sean:

clockwise or counter?
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/41127/

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Right brained. May explain why I suck at poker.

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can you make her turn the other way?

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No. [censored] internet.

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lol.

Keep it real, sean... I'm off to bed. Drink some more wine and go own Ozi... everyone's getting a piece of him while he's down.