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dtan05 10-10-2007 04:13 PM

3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $400
UTG: $418.30
MP: $272.94
CO: $753.30
Hero (BTN): $382
SB: $85

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $14, 2 folds

Flop: ($34) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $68</font>, CO calls $46

Turn: ($170) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($170) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $122</font>, Hero

dtan05 10-10-2007 04:13 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
forgot to add villain is like 20/15 tag

olof86 10-10-2007 04:19 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
he's obviously having some missed draw or a hand that beats you.. whats the problem rly?

he's having a hand more often then he's not.. and you cant push that river, so i'd fold. Though, calling can't be that bad really.. just pick one!

dtan05 10-10-2007 04:19 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
so you call

WelshChip 10-10-2007 04:22 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
fold

jfish 10-10-2007 04:40 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
i fold

snowbank 10-10-2007 04:44 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
i call

gir 10-10-2007 04:56 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
I call. Your hand looks like a missed combo draw.

Also, I think your flop raise is too small from the looks of it.

Hattifnatt 10-10-2007 05:01 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
fold pre.

pokerchap 10-10-2007 05:10 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
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I call. Your hand looks like a missed combo draw.

Also, I think your flop raise is too small from the looks of it.

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danjohncochane 10-10-2007 07:52 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
FOLD with such a small bet he's looking for a call.

john kane 10-10-2007 08:08 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
if you haven't 3bet pf in a while then 3bet pf here.

i prefer bigger flop raise to rep a draw.

on a good day i fire turn, about $135, on a bad day i check turn (though i dont think check is that bad)

as played call. COs pf raising range is wide, he check-calls so has K, J with better kicker, or draw. imo given odds i call.

Dootch 10-10-2007 08:10 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
I either raise or fold pre, and I fold riv as played

MatthewRyan 10-10-2007 08:51 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
ffold

dtan05 10-10-2007 08:54 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
he took REALLY long to call flop, does that changes anyone's mind?

fringsrache 10-10-2007 08:56 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
raise or fold pre. fold river most of the time.

dtan05 10-10-2007 08:58 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
also, I am not worried about preflop, i had my reasons for calling, thanks though.

donkeykong2 10-10-2007 09:05 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
i fold

DJ Sensei 10-10-2007 11:13 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
call. look at what you're repping (hint: air)

tcorbin16 10-10-2007 11:16 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
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call. look at what you're repping (hint: air)

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dtan05 10-10-2007 11:24 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
lawl, i obv called (cmon u guys know ima station)

he had QT

gir 10-10-2007 11:52 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
I like how villain played it...As long as you make this move with air/draw a chunk of the time too.

Trivial 10-11-2007 12:14 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
i snap call

Phresh 10-11-2007 12:57 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
Trips is hard to make. I call.

mak15 10-11-2007 01:39 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
i fold. we expect him to 3bet the flop with big hearts right? so we beat QT and lose to to AJ+, which is a range he would very likely play this way on all streets and obviously we never beat a value bet.

dtan05 10-11-2007 01:47 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
lol @ a 2/4 reg ever value betting AJ here

AAismyfriend 10-11-2007 01:53 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
you're obviously good enough here to call, and while some of the regs are certainly capable of value betting AJ here, I see no reason why they would since it looks like we have air here. I think a smart villain would c/c with a K a lot here also FWIW.

fitnessfreak 10-11-2007 02:30 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
calling pre is fine. as played fold river.

MatthewRyan 10-11-2007 02:36 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
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lol @ a 2/4 reg ever value betting AJ here

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I think this is wrong, I know im betting AJ there every time

gir 10-11-2007 02:44 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
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lol @ a 2/4 reg ever value betting AJ here

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I think this is wrong, I know im betting AJ there every time

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So am I...At least 75% of the time. I think the laugh was trying to insinuate that it would possibly be unexpected of a typical TAG to do this.

Fabian 10-11-2007 02:49 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
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i snap call

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Seriously.

2cards2come 10-11-2007 03:23 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
that is a snap call my friend. you are repping nothing at all.

aggie 10-11-2007 04:51 AM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
If i'm playing against a straight forward opponent i usually bet the turn and then shut down....

dtan05 10-11-2007 12:06 PM

Re: 3k hands a month, am i hand readings bad
 
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lol @ a 2/4 reg ever value betting AJ here

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I think this is wrong, I know im betting AJ there every time

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So am I...At least 75% of the time. I think the laugh was trying to insinuate that it would possibly be unexpected of a typical TAG to do this.

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yea, most 2/4 TAGs are bad.


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