How Many people can beat 5/10+ Online?(LC)
 

I was discussing with some people and got varying answers so I'm curious what people think.
So the question is how many people in the world could beat 5/10NL or higher online over a big enough sample. We can assume they can game select i.e. not sit vs 5 other regs but at the same time they can't only sit in the softest games 1 tabling.

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I'd say 3-5000.

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More than 1000 have the neccesary skills to beat it IMO, however that doesn't mean that it's in their best interests to play that high. For example there's probably a heap of small stakes grinders whose games are at a level where they could eek out 0-1ptbb/100, but with that winrate they'd have such sick downswings/breakeven runs that they would never stick around.

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I'd say 3-5000.

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Are you saying right now? Or people who if they got coached etc.. have the ability to? Because honestly given the current conditions of the games there is no way their are 5000 people can beat 5/10

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i'd say easily over 1k if you mean beating equating .1bb/100+

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i'd say easily over 1k if you mean beating equating .1bb/100+

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Ya I agree with that so lets say beat means 1ptbb or higher.

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300-500

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For just 1PTBB? I'd guess 6000. Probably more, actually. Interesting question though, I always wonder where'd I'd rank in the world at poker.

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how many people play cash online to begin with?

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For just 1PTBB? I'd guess 6000. Probably more, actually. Interesting question though, I always wonder where'd I'd rank in the world at poker.

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You mean like right now, could sit down in an average online 5/10 NL game, and expect to be a 1 PTBB/100 winner?

6000 is WAAAY too high.

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For just 1PTBB? I'd guess 6000. Probably more, actually. Interesting question though, I always wonder where'd I'd rank in the world at poker.

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The odd thing is Fgators is probably in the top 5-10%.

Anyone who can beat MSNL is probably top fraction of 1%

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I think 300-500, but my opinion of beating 5/10 is being able to fire up 3-4+ tables at almost any time and win.

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300-500

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i'll say6t 2-300

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This isn't people who could sit down and beat it, but dont play that high usually, it's people who beat it right now.

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I thought he was asking who could sit down and beat it, deliberately aiming for at least 1PTBB (so playing really tight against regs. and giving up a bit of ev to avoid difficult spots against them).

Now that I think about it though most people I was considering won't be able to play that way all the time.

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I'd say like 1500-2000 for 1PTBB/100

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I'd say like 300-500.. not many 5-10 tables run in the first place, and from that, not all players are regulars to have a significant sample size.. and not all regulars are winning players.. so i'd say across all sites there can't be that many winners..

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gotta be more than 1k since i can beat it and i know i make bad plays all the time.

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I think 300-500, but my opinion of beating 5/10 is being able to fire up 3-4+ tables at almost any time and win.

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gotta be more than 1k since i can beat it and i know i make bad plays all the time.

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this is indeed proof that more than 1k can beat it.

probably like 10k

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this thread makes me feel better about myself

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i am bookmarking it to combat tilt!

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I would suspect that there are many thousands of people across all poker sites earning a living at 5/10 and up. There are probably quite a few high stakes live players that could beat it too.

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i've always wondered about stuff like this, but i think its really hard to put a number on it. I guess if anybody knows, its the poker sites, since theyre the ones with the databases and such.

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This is a stupid question.

If the whole world tried it, you'd have over $2B. If only 20,000 regular players exist in the poker world, you have < 1000. It's entirely dependent on the field-base.

The REAL question you want to ask is what % of players that try to beat 5/10 could succeed... and you'd have to further define things as well.. i'md runk but i think i talk some sense

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Homecoming has started already?

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If there's about 10 million playing online poker and 200k plays +5/10 and we usually say there is about 5% winners I get the number 10k.

So 10k ppl would be beating 5/10+ online, seems reasonable?

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there are not 200,000 people playing 1knl+ online

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On all sites or American only sites?

On European sites 5/10 can be ridiculously easy at times, while 5/10 on Stars and FT is very tough.

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500 Tops.
People who regluarly play 3+ tables, min 10K hands/month.

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How many people are capable of beating 5-10 and how many people are actually doing it are two very different things. There are lots and lots of losing players at higher stakes that could comfortably drop down and beat 5-10. There are also tons of winning lower level multitablers who could beat 5-10 if they had the desire/disipline/focus to play just 1 or 2 tables...

So i would say there are >5000 people who are capable of beating 5-10+. There are probably <500 people currently doing it...

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tilt factor

i might be a 7 ptbb winner tiltless and a 4 ptbb winner with 20k losing days once a week

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i might be a 7 ptbb winner tiltless and a 4 ptbb winner with 20k losing days once a week

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the swings are regulary that big?

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I am very surprised about the low figures, but after thinking about it, it`s definately <1k player. Many regs play with different names on different sites. But able to beat Nl1k ( but not even playing poker yet) are dffinately >10k i think >50k is ven better

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+ego

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there are not 200,000 people playing 1knl+ online

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yeah ur right ;( got 2700 players at 5/10+ in my db at party, so prolly not even 100k players at 5/10+. 50k players maybe?

If so then maybe 2500 players are beating it. Someone have the answer? =)

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happy bday eagles

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Heres something I was talking with people about:

What do you think is the biggest NLHE cash game on Stars that Joe Hachem could beat(playing under an unknown name)?

I said it is less than 3/6 NL, possibly less than 2/4 Nl.

Discuss

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I was talking to a buddy of mine whom I haven't seen since the WSOP and, as always, conversation came about to online poker. He told me that he put about 10k online and then, being a lot smarter than your average person, started datamining the [censored] out of Full Tilt (I believe). He found out over 500k hands of datamining, that only 4 players total on the whole site were beating the game at 2/4nl for over 4 PTBB/100. These are his words, not mine, but you can extrapolate from there and the picture does not look good.

Kirk

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Heres something I was talking with people about:

What do you think is the biggest NLHE cash game on Stars that Joe Hachem could beat(playing under an unknown name)?

I said it is less than 3/6 NL, possibly less than 2/4 Nl.

Discuss

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I think it's more along the lines of 25c/50c