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Ok, i cant win [censored] in mtts. i crush cash games and i crush sngs. but i cant seem to make [censored] in mtts especially on stars. So wtf, are mtts that much luck based? what do you guys think is the percentage of skill/luck in an mtt.

IMO its like 5% skill and 95% luck.

brag: i crush sngs and cash games
beat: i am basically breakeven at mtts.
variance: lose 70% of races in mtts imo.

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I think you should post more along these lines, thats a good read IMO.

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fwiw, I totally agree with you

MTTs are like playing play money after you've played cash games

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I just lost with JJ on JQ5 flop against 55, so yea F stars
luckily it was only a 5$ tournament but now I am liable to go on tilt and join 50$ tournies

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Once you realize that to win MTT, you need to stay out of races, you'll lose less races and place higher in them.

I JUST started playing them this week. I normally play SnG and cash, mostly live cash, but I played 7 tourneys with 700+ entrants each and placed 150 or less in every single one. Even cashed 3 times. Not bad for my first few tourneys...

Avoid getting all your chips on the line, bad beats and losing races happen, so avoid them. Be cautious preflop, be extra concerned with position, and if someone calls a raise when you have top pair, check/call, or check/fold because you're probably beat.

Whole diff strategy, don't get frustrated, it's acutally easy once you learn the rules. Play super tight for the first hour and you'll be to less than 200 people in a 700-1000 field in no time. Especially $15-$30 buy in events, they are like Jerry Lewis Donkathons. Double up one time then wait for premium hands or suited connectors in multiway cheap PF pots. Also, play ANY pocket pair with any decent sizable raises, hit a set, double up.

GL

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early on I would say you have to get into a lot of marginal situations in order to get enough chips to make the final table. If you are folding in possible coinflips you are passing up giving yourself a chance to win it

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luckily it was only a 5$ tournament but now I am liable to go on tilt and join 50$ tournies

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loooooooooool. that same thing happened to me last night in a cash game for a $200 pot 88 vs 77 on 87x flop..BOOM 7 on river. somehow i still profit on the session because i am just so far above the rim its scary

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Once you realize that to win MTT, you need to stay out of races, you'll lose less races and place higher in them.

I JUST started playing them this week. I normally play SnG and cash, mostly live cash, but I played 7 tourneys with 700+ entrants each and placed 150 or less in every single one. Even cashed 3 times. Not bad for my first few tourneys...

Avoid getting all your chips on the line, bad beats and losing races happen, so avoid them. Be cautious preflop, be extra concerned with position, and if someone calls a raise when you have top pair, check/call, or check/fold because you're probably beat.

Whole diff strategy, don't get frustrated, it's acutally easy once you learn the rules. Play super tight for the first hour and you'll be to less than 200 people in a 700-1000 field in no time. Especially $15-$30 buy in events, they are like Jerry Lewis Donkathons. Double up one time then wait for premium hands or suited connectors in multiway cheap PF pots. Also, play ANY pocket pair with any decent sizable raises, hit a set, double up.

GL

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i understand, i used to play basically to "make the money" but im pretty much passed that and really look to final table not cash, and then win obv

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Once you realize that to win MTT, you need to stay out of races, you'll lose less races and place higher in them.

I JUST started playing them this week. I normally play SnG and cash, mostly live cash, but I played 7 tourneys with 700+ entrants each and placed 150 or less in every single one. Even cashed 3 times. Not bad for my first few tourneys...

Avoid getting all your chips on the line, bad beats and losing races happen, so avoid them. Be cautious preflop, be extra concerned with position, and if someone calls a raise when you have top pair, check/call, or check/fold because you're probably beat.

Whole diff strategy, don't get frustrated, it's acutally easy once you learn the rules. Play super tight for the first hour and you'll be to less than 200 people in a 700-1000 field in no time. Especially $15-$30 buy in events, they are like Jerry Lewis Donkathons. Double up one time then wait for premium hands or suited connectors in multiway cheap PF pots. Also, play ANY pocket pair with any decent sizable raises, hit a set, double up.

GL

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Woah woah woah, I don't know know about that. I've bustoed a lot of people in mtts because they thought they were sick call Kenny Tran and wanted to show all their friends their awesome call with bottom pair.

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Once you realize that to win MTT, you need to stay out of races, you'll lose less races and place higher in them.

I JUST started playing them this week. I normally play SnG and cash, mostly live cash, but I played 7 tourneys with 700+ entrants each and placed 150 or less in every single one. Even cashed 3 times. Not bad for my first few tourneys...

Avoid getting all your chips on the line, bad beats and losing races happen, so avoid them. Be cautious preflop, be extra concerned with position, and if someone calls a raise when you have top pair, check/call, or check/fold because you're probably beat.

Whole diff strategy, don't get frustrated, it's acutally easy once you learn the rules. Play super tight for the first hour and you'll be to less than 200 people in a 700-1000 field in no time. Especially $15-$30 buy in events, they are like Jerry Lewis Donkathons. Double up one time then wait for premium hands or suited connectors in multiway cheap PF pots. Also, play ANY pocket pair with any decent sizable raises, hit a set, double up.

GL

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Nice level dude!

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l o l

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early on I would say you have to get into a lot of marginal situations in order to get enough chips to make the final table. If you are folding in possible coinflips you are passing up giving yourself a chance to win it

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Agreed. Look for confrontations early where you can hit a big hand and take advantage of someone that overplays AK, AQ, or a big pair. Thats why, especially early, I'll limp or call medium raises with suited connectors and ALL pairs.

Easy to double up at first because
A) Donks overplay medium hands
B) Most people are trying to cash, so they dont take any risks, so you can push people around.

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Once you realize that to win MTT, you need to stay out of races, you'll lose less races and place higher in them.

I JUST started playing them this week. I normally play SnG and cash, mostly live cash, but I played 7 tourneys with 700+ entrants each and placed 150 or less in every single one. Even cashed 3 times. Not bad for my first few tourneys...

Avoid getting all your chips on the line, bad beats and losing races happen, so avoid them. Be cautious preflop, be extra concerned with position, and if someone calls a raise when you have top pair, check/call, or check/fold because you're probably beat.

Whole diff strategy, don't get frustrated, it's acutally easy once you learn the rules. Play super tight for the first hour and you'll be to less than 200 people in a 700-1000 field in no time. Especially $15-$30 buy in events, they are like Jerry Lewis Donkathons. Double up one time then wait for premium hands or suited connectors in multiway cheap PF pots. Also, play ANY pocket pair with any decent sizable raises, hit a set, double up.

GL

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Please be a level?

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Wat iz dis level you speak of?

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wtf? Double up or stop playing. Win-win [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I'm saying, early on, dont get into races. Going all in with 10-10 or AQ and stuff like that. Play with more strategy early on, see a lot of cheap flops and build up your stack.

I folded JJ early in a tourney yesterday.

I had about 3400, UTG raiser like 2500 and UTG + 2 had like 1700
Blinds 100/200

UTG raises to 550, UTG+2 raises all in, I fold JJ.

Folds to UTG who calls.

UTG has KK, UTG+2 has 66.

6 On board, my hand was 3rd best post flop.

Ended up cashing in this event BTW.

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congrats on waffle crush mtts

enjoy the money.

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Ended up cashing in this event BTW.

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yes but how long did it take?

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yes but how long did it take?

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How long did the tourney take? About 2.5 hours or so.

Multitable 2-3 tourneys and sometimes a SnG and cash game, all while txt messaging, listening to music, eating pizza, and watching porn.

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I'm saying, early on, dont get into races. Going all in with 10-10 or AQ and stuff like that. Play with more strategy early on, see a lot of cheap flops and build up your stack.

I folded JJ early in a tourney yesterday.

I had about 3400, UTG raiser like 2500 and UTG + 2 had like 1700
Blinds 100/200

UTG raises to 550, UTG+2 raises all in, I fold JJ.

Folds to UTG who calls.

UTG has KK, UTG+2 has 66.

6 On board, my hand was 3rd best post flop.

Ended up cashing in this event BTW.

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Hahaha, this is some funny ish.

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I'm saying, early on, dont get into races. Going all in with 10-10 or AQ and stuff like that. Play with more strategy early on, see a lot of cheap flops and build up your stack.

I folded JJ early in a tourney yesterday.

I had about 3400, UTG raiser like 2500 and UTG + 2 had like 1700
Blinds 100/200

UTG raises to 550, UTG+2 raises all in, I fold JJ.

Folds to UTG who calls.

UTG has KK, UTG+2 has 66.

6 On board, my hand was 3rd best post flop.

Ended up cashing in this event BTW.

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YOU SUCK

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is this thread serious? If you are running bad in MTT's just play better...

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Against a UTG raiser and a reraise All in, if you call with JJ you're an idiot.

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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I can deny it and say IDIOT is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Forget tourneys, I'll play you HU for $10k... I could use a new...... um... whatever you can buy with $10k.

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loooooooooool. that same thing happened to me last night in a cash game for a $200 pot 88 vs 77 on 87x flop..BOOM 7 on river. somehow i still profit on the session because i am just so far above the rim its scary

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roflcopter.

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no offense fybpm, but you are pretty clueless when it comes to tournaments. i dunno where you are getting 10k to play shaun deeb hu, but goodluck


edit: now that i think about it, this was just a trolling post and i took the bait

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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I can deny it and say IDIOT is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Forget tourneys, I'll play you HU for $10k... I could use a new...... um... whatever you can buy with $10k.

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ez $$$ for u imo.

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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I can deny it and say IDIOT is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Forget tourneys, I'll play you HU for $10k... I could use a new...... um... whatever you can buy with $10k.

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ez $$$ for u imo.

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yea, thats why he hasnt responded. he's looking for a 10k stake from some poor sap

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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I can deny it and say IDIOT is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Forget tourneys, I'll play you HU for $10k... I could use a new...... um... whatever you can buy with $10k.

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ez $$$ for u imo.

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yea, thats why he hasnt responded. he's looking for a 10k stake from some poor sap

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Ya, I'm sure you've got the roll for this...

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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I can deny it and say IDIOT is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Forget tourneys, I'll play you HU for $10k... I could use a new...... um... whatever you can buy with $10k.

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ez $$$ for u imo.

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yea, thats why he hasnt responded. he's looking for a 10k stake from some poor sap

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Ya, I'm sure you've got the roll for this...

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You're saying I don't have $10k because I was trying to turn $200 into $2500?????

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is this thread serious? If you are running bad in MTT's just play better...

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that makes SO much sense. thanks

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stating that they are 95% luck just cause you're running bad makes more sense? Seriously...just because you have not done well doesn't mean others aren't...

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is this thread serious? If you are running bad in MTT's just play better...

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that makes SO much sense. thanks

[/ QUOTE ]your prob playing them okjust play more of them if you wasnt to earn more off them. all the people on the tourny leader boards on stars ect play an insane amount of mtts. if you can be bothered to multi table mtts for 8 hours and more. not my idea of a fun way to spend your life.mtts mega variance. stick to cash.

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lol Im an idiot in mtts for sureeeeee.

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I dont think anybody cany deny that LDO

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I can deny it and say IDIOT is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Forget tourneys, I'll play you HU for $10k... I could use a new...... um... whatever you can buy with $10k.

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ez $$$ for u imo.

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yea, thats why he hasnt responded. he's looking for a 10k stake from some poor sap

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Ya, I'm sure you've got the roll for this...

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You're saying I don't have $10k because I was trying to turn $200 into $2500?????

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Yes that's what I'm saying...

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is this thread serious? If you are running bad in MTT's just play better...

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that makes SO much sense. thanks

[/ QUOTE ]your prob playing them okjust play more of them if you wasnt to earn more off them. all the people on the tourny leader boards on stars ect play an insane amount of mtts. if you can be bothered to multi table mtts for 8 hours and more. not my idea of a fun way to spend your life.mtts mega variance. stick to cash.

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fair point...you have to put in huge volume and make it count when things go well...variance is a mighty bitch but the times things go well in MTT's it feels pretty goooooot!

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I'll play you HU sure

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is this thread serious? If you are running bad in MTT's just play better...

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that makes SO much sense. thanks

[/ QUOTE ]your prob playing them okjust play more of them if you wasnt to earn more off them. all the people on the tourny leader boards on stars ect play an insane amount of mtts. if you can be bothered to multi table mtts for 8 hours and more. not my idea of a fun way to spend your life.mtts mega variance. stick to cash.

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fair point...you have to put in huge volume and make it count when things go well...variance is a mighty bitch but the times things go well in MTT's it feels pretty goooooot!

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QFT.