100NL JJ I need a river line
 

<font color="blue"> Villain is 14/11/3 over 870 hands

He's not completely straight forward though.
His river AF is 5.0 and I've seen him 3bet with 106s in the past.</font>

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $199.00
BB: $50.00
UTG: $40.10
UTG+1: $18.50
MP: $153.30
CO: $51.60
BTN: $0.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $3.50</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, BB folds, MP calls $9.00

Flop: ($26) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, MP calls $16.00

Turn: ($58) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($58) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ?

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

You beat essentially nothing so I'd check and reevaluate.

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

I c/f here. He makes moves when he's raising but i don't see anything in your reads that suggest he is anything but a standard TAG when he is calling a 3bet.

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

c/f

Just can't see anything we can beat

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

Does QQ ever fold to a bet?

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Does QQ ever fold to a bet?

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No.

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

c/f, assuming he bets AdQd type stuff on turn

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

I c/c a reasonable bet. I don't see what we are so afraid of. The K was a good card. I don't think AA plays this way. I'm only really worried of QQ here.

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

cf

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

Im kinda confused by the check/fold so many people are suggesting. There's no hands that villain could bet on the river that we're ahead of? What about A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? Or is this villain def. folding ATs to a 3bet pre? Or is it that hes very likely that to check through with ATs on the end

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

so if we c/f this the flop bet was essentially a bluff?
Don't like that idea.
I think if we bet the flop we should be comfortably putting in 1 more bet. If you don't like that idea check the flop.

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

check and call a smallish bet.

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check and call a smallish bet.

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1/2 pot = small?

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

I think I'd c/c a bet of about $35 or less here. I feel like I'm missing something with all the ppl who said just c/f river. If I am, please let me know

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

I think I c/c here a lot because:

1. I'm a calling station, especially when the pot is large.

2. I don't see a lot of guys playing AK or sets like this.

3. I don't think a guy like this is smart/good enough to value bet QQ here.

4. I am such a station.

Re: 100NL JJ I need a river line
 

c/f

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lol, care to elaborate ?

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c/f

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lol, care to elaborate ?

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Theres very few bluffs he can have here since he probably will shove most semibluffs and such on the flop since his equity is higher. So if he bets hes probably valuebetting and we're crushed by his valuebetting range.

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c/f

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lol, care to elaborate ?

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Theres very few bluffs he can have here since he probably will shove most semibluffs and such on the flop since his equity is higher. So if he bets hes probably valuebetting and we're crushed by his valuebetting range.

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yeah exactly.

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check and call a smallish bet.

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1/2 pot = small?

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