how much shall i bet yo 10/20 hu deep river value w 1 pair
 

villain is negrodamus2, we are 3 tabling, he 3bets a ton pf and is aggro but seems to be an ok hand reader. i havent 4bet pf once which matters i think.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

BB: $3,477.50
Hero (SB): $4,414.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $200.00</font>, Hero calls $140.00

Flop: ($400) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $260.00</font>, Hero calls $260.00

Turn: ($920) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $550.00</font>, BB calls $550.00

River: ($2020) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Pot Size: $2,020.00
BB checks


he has 2400 left

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440 pray to god he shoves

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it doesn't really matter, i would ahve bet 650 or 725 on the turn so the river was more starightforwad, but as played shoving or betting 1450 will probably net you nearly identical results, i have no diea what levl he's on or thinks your'e on obv

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agree with betting more on the turn.

given your small turn bet i think a big river bet is gonna look really strong so I would say bet small again like 700ish and maybe induce a shove or really light call.

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check

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what a rebel

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$700-1200 depending on how stationy you think he is.

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I kinda like checking too

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i think given description, we are too often ahead to check. and i dont expect him to take a c/c c/f (turn/riv) line often here.

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i dunno how ya'lls session was playing but i played him a bit a while ago and he was pretty good, the match was v aggressive, we played a ton of big pots, and he def played a lot of large pots with one pair. if it was me i'd shove

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I've played said villain a few times, and he generally was kinda a station vs me, so I dunno I'd prob bet biggish, maybe shove.

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i agree strongly with the above 3 posts

i dont think theres much more to say. i shoved and he turbo mucked. prob had overs+fd on the turn.

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Yea I'm in the shove camp.

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i thought about shoving, but i just dont think its optimal in terms of maximum ev unless you have a very specific image. i would like shoving if it wasnt an overbet.

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I'd bet, prob shove, and Negro is insanely tough and a pretty nice guy in my interactions

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i thought about shoving, but i just dont think its optimal in terms of maximum ev unless you have a very specific image. i would like shoving if it wasnt an overbet.

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if we bet more on turn it's not an overbet...

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i agree strongly with the above 3 posts

i dont think theres much more to say. i shoved and he turbo mucked. prob had overs+fd on the turn.

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if that's the case and with the other posts he probably would have put you in

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i thought about shoving, but i just dont think its optimal in terms of maximum ev unless you have a very specific image. i would like shoving if it wasnt an overbet.

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but as played shoving or betting 1450 will probably net you nearly identical results

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Uhm? He has about 1450 left in a 2k pot. Am I reading something wrong here?

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i thought about shoving, but i just dont think its optimal in terms of maximum ev unless you have a very specific image. i would like shoving if it wasnt an overbet.

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but as played shoving or betting 1450 will probably net you nearly identical results

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Uhm? He has about 1450 left in a 2k pot. Am I reading something wrong here?

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Yeah, it's like $2400 into a 2K pot left. He started the hand with $3400

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Bah. Off course.

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I'd bet, prob shove, and Negro is insanely tough and a pretty nice guy in my interactions

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i can see why people would think hes tough but i feel i have a clear edge over him. maybe he is insanely tough but im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever. i played him for 1500 hands yesterday and didn't feel like he was playing better than me at any point.

as far as "pretty nice guy", i had never talked to the dude before and he immediately started [censored] talking me after winning the first big pot when we first started playing a few days ago. then he started calling me an ugly nerd and other dumb [censored] like that, WTF? he certainly shuts up when you clown him though.

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I'd bet, prob shove, and Negro is insanely tough and a pretty nice guy in my interactions

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i can see why people would think hes tough but i feel i have a clear edge over him. maybe he is insanely tough but im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever. i played him for 1500 hands yesterday and didn't feel like he was playing better than me at any point.

as far as "pretty nice guy", i had never talked to the dude before and he immediately started [censored] talking me after winning the first big pot when we first started playing a few days ago. then he started calling me an ugly nerd and other dumb [censored] like that, WTF? he certainly shuts up when you clown him though.

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i think he's a dumbass. he won't play me because i "play too slow" which for him means ever letting the 'has 15 seconds to act' thing pop up in chat

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i thought about shoving, but i just dont think its optimal in terms of maximum ev unless you have a very specific image. i would like shoving if it wasnt an overbet.

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if we bet more on turn it's not an overbet...

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i know..?

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im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever

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orly?

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to the people that shove here.. are u ever shoving as a bluff? dont lie.

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im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever

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orly?

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yeh thats a pretty bold statement.

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im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever

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orly?

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100k freezeout plzplzplz

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im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever

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orly?

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yeh thats a pretty bold statement.

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ill book action on bigt vs ec10 HU4rollz. myself also obv.

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but im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever.

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i think he's a dumbass. he won't play me because i "play too slow" which for him means ever letting the 'has 15 seconds to act' thing pop up in chat

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He won't play me either because I'm too nitty and I pretty much agree with you etizzle.

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im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever

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orly?

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yeh thats a pretty bold statement.

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ill book action on bigt vs ec10 HU4rollz. myself also obv.

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im probably the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 so whatever

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Who's big T?

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one of my lovers.

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Listen, EC-10 has always talked [censored] about being so good or w/e but in realityu he is a bum hunter who makes money because he never plays anybody good. I would gamble everything i own against him and further more I would gamble everything i own on BigT and raptor and a few others!


I can only assume he was joking or being a dick

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seems like a chill guy in my experience. doubt he was issuing an open challenge to hsnl.

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EC10 = DC10Fireball?

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Who's big T?

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one of my lovers.

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one of!?!

we're so over.

also, i don't even know what ec10's sn is so i wasn't saying anything about him in particular, but saying youre the best hu player or whatever below 200/400 is pretty dumb and almost certainly wrong. but maybe not, who knows.

i don't even play alot of hu, but ill let dave and peter put money on me so i can throw the match... mainly because i like to here raptor talk about how bad he runs.

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lol i certainly wasnt challenging all of hsnl when i said that, i just have a big ego when it comes to my hu skills. relax guys. i probably am not ACTUALLY the best hu player online that doesn't play 200/400 (samh/maxemus, green plastic, prahlad come to mind) but im definitely up there.

that said, i would certainly play bigt, raptor, apathy, or aejones (lol @ this one, do you even play hu dude?) and id probably crush all of you. but i dont care enough to set up a grudge match. if you want to play me i am Monster Kill on FTP/UB and you can find me at 10/20 or 10/25 any given day. (also 5/10 on stars--i will play ANYONE on stars at 5/10, even a 25/50+ reg). there are like 3 people that i have refused to give action to (off the top of my head FWF and the ChrisChun account are the only ones recently) and all the other good regulars have either quit me or dont give me action.

edit: btw my chat just got banned on FTP for 3 months so dont expect a response from me at the tables

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there are like 3 people that i have refused to give action to (off the top of my head FWF and the ChrisChun account are the only ones recently)

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holla