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just curious how well FTP, UB, Stars and Absolute are doing at attracting the eurodonks, i.e. what will it be like as u.s. sites start to have americans who are primarily decent players.


Also, for euros out there, how do games right now at fulltilt compare with party, crypto, etc???

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just curious how well FTP, UB, Stars and Absolute are doing at attracting the eurodonks, i.e. what will it be like as u.s. sites start to have americans who are primarily decent players.


Also, for euros out there, how do games right now at fulltilt compare with party, crypto, etc???

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Stars has always been pretty strong in Europe. I'm not sure about the others.

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Yeah I've really noticed lately how much of a jump in traffic there has been on stars over the last month right around noon stars time (evening in Europe obv)

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I played on William Hill (Crypto) for a couple of hours today and these were my observations. There were about 6000+ players logged in during Euro Prime Time.

$2/$4 Limit HoldEm - Tight like always
$100 & $200 No Limit HoldEm - Very Similar to Full Tilt, if anything a little looser
$100 Pot Limit Omaha - Much better than FullTilt. Some crazy gambling by several spots at the tables.

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I played on William Hill (Crypto) for a couple of hours today and these were my observations. There were about 6000+ players logged in during Euro Prime Time.

$2/$4 Limit HoldEm - Tight like always
$100 & $200 No Limit HoldEm - Very Similar to Full Tilt, if anything a little looser
$100 Pot Limit Omaha - Much better than FullTilt. Some crazy gambling by several spots at the tables.

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Is fulltilt advertising a lot in europe? do you get "poker after dark" on tv?

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I've been playing $25 and $50nl on party and Interpoker for the last couple of months. the games seem better than ever to me, loads more loose-passives, less multitabling TAG types.

Mat

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just curious how well FTP, UB, Stars and Absolute are doing at attracting the eurodonks, i.e. what will it be like as u.s. sites start to have americans who are primarily decent players.


Also, for euros out there, how do games right now at fulltilt compare with party, crypto, etc???

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I've been crushing the [censored] out of the low and mid limit games on Stars post-apocalypse. I wonder how much of this newfound stupidity is US donks donking off remaining small balances for fun and how much is simple frustration from those who were completely dependent on Neteller for transfers and now have no means of transferring between their bankroll and the sites. There may even be other reasons I'm not thinking of, all I know is out of about 700 hands today, I'm up about 200BBs. Given that my normal limit before all of this was 1/2 and I was only making 0.4BB/100 after 2500 hands of that, I wonder if perhaps I'm simply a luckbox who thinks too much.

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I dont think "Poker After Dark" is on in Europe as it is a NBC production. Maybe someone else can say for sure, since some latenight NBC stuff like Leno etc. does sometimes run on CNBC late. But, there are alot of European poker shows on TV, keeping it popular like in the States.

As far as Full Tilt advertising goes, there are ALOT of different European poker magazines (PanEuropean, British, Swedish ... even a Norwegian one, etc.) and Full Tilt always has the same big color spreads in all of them that you see in CardPlayer.

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Well obviously games at Prima et al. are ridiculously tough compared to Stars/Party/any formerly American-centric site. Wow. Do you retards seriously think that the average European is at all better than Americans at any sort of gambling games?

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just curious how well FTP, UB, Stars and Absolute are doing at attracting the eurodonks, i.e. what will it be like as u.s. sites start to have americans who are primarily decent players.


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Out of those sites I'd say Full Tilt is the one that does the heaviest marketing in main-stream media, at least in Scandinavia, although Stars seems to be far more popular.

To really get big in Europe it would take more than marketing though. They would need multilingual sites, and unlimited VISA-cashouts or free bank transfer withdrawals (most Euro fish don't use e-wallets, they use credit/debit cards). I doubt that any of them will attract enough euro-fish to make up for the loss of the American fish in the short term.

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Well obviously games at Prima et al. are ridiculously tough compared to Stars/Party/any formerly American-centric site. Wow. Do you retards seriously think that the average European is at all better than Americans at any sort of gambling games?

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hmm, i think i recall the OP mentioning something about eurodonks...

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Party is still pretty much alive and well there seem to be a lot of regulars but enough new players at least at the 1/2, 2/4NL 6 max, there seem to be a lot of new German players coming online.

Advertising wise the top 3 dominate that Stars sponsor a lot of shows ie have little clips with Chris Momeymaker in it, Full Tilt as well with the million cash game etc.

I had planned on playing a lot on full tilt but the games euro peak time didnt seem that great so I just went back to Party.