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How not to play KK

hilarity ensues, i shoulda just shoved the river it woulda been sweet

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($25.35)
CO ($26.70)
Button ($38.30)
SB ($196.10)
BB ($101.35)
Hero ($514.05)
UTG+1 ($97)
MP1 ($56.50)
MP2 ($277.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $8, 5 folds, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($17.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($33.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: ($33.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP2 calls $20.

Final Pot: $73.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has 6h 6c (full house, sixes full of eights).
MP2 has Kc Kh (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $73.50.

Re: How not to play KK

nice call on the flop fish

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Loc: missing value bets

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lol at calling flop with 66.

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nice call on the flop fish

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this guy was constantly weak post flop so i figured him for AK actually, i dont even call pre in this spot mostly but his stack size made it an easy call

as for my session stats they are ridiculous, guess i didnt need those extra hours of sleep anyway, i cant get the screen shot so i ll just list em

Hands 113
VPIP 30.97
VPISB 28.57
Folded BB to steal 75
Folded SB to steal 40
Att to steal blinds 40
Won $ at SD 47.22
Amount Won 455.85
BB/100 Hands 201.7 (sustainable yah?)
Went to SD 30.56
Won $at SD 54.55
PFR 11.5
AF (low)

this sessions was interesting because i sat down right next to a donk who it was pretty beneficial to play every hand against, i personally made about 70 percent of my profits from him alone, the rest of the table made a little too, but it discouraged them from attacking me since he was soo bad so the table was very easily rapeable without much real work, and a little luck of course (95s vs AK on a K95 board in a blind battle) and hands i think my favorite was this one though where he tried to metagame me out

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($70.05)
MP2 ($60)
MP3 ($96.50)
CO ($317.30)
Button ($116.95)
Hero ($86.40)
BB ($100)
UTG ($123.25)
UTG+1 ($193.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
6 folds, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $8.

Flop: ($25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button raises to $104.95, Hero calls $54.40 (All-In).

Turn: ($173.80) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($173.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $173.80

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah Kh (one pair, aces).
Button has 3h 2h (one pair, threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $173.80. Button wins $30.55. 

and then his last straw (actually earlier in the session but still good because it illustrates how EVERY hand was worth playing against him in position
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($67.05)
UTG+1 ($99)
MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($306.65)
MP3 ($53.05)
Hero ($174.25)
Button ($98)
SB ($66.45)
BB ($207.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3, Hero calls $3, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($10.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets $5, Hero raises to $15, MP3 calls $10.

River: ($40.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets $34.05 (All-In), Hero calls $34.05.

Final Pot: $108.60

Results in white below: 
MP3 has Kh 7h (flush, king high).
Hero has 9s 6d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $108.60. 

Flame away BBV but i ll still keep his monies

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UTG ($67.05)
UTG+1 ($99)
MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($306.65)
MP3 ($53.05)
Hero ($174.25)
Button ($98)
SB ($66.45)
BB ($207.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 6.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) 9, 6, T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3, Hero calls $3, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($10.50) 6 (2 players)
MP3 bets $5, Hero raises to $15, MP3 calls $10.

River: ($40.50) 4 (2 players)
MP3 bets $34.05 (All-In), Hero calls $34.05.

Final Pot: $108.60

Results in white below:
MP3 has Kh 7h (flush, king high).
Hero has 9s 6d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $108.60.

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OMG R U TONY G??

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UTG ($67.05)
UTG+1 ($99)
MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($306.65)
MP3 ($53.05)
Hero ($174.25)
Button ($98)
SB ($66.45)
BB ($207.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 6.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) 9, 6, T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3, Hero calls $3, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($10.50) 6 (2 players)
MP3 bets $5, Hero raises to $15, MP3 calls $10.

River: ($40.50) 4 (2 players)
MP3 bets $34.05 (All-In), Hero calls $34.05.

Final Pot: $108.60

Results in white below:
MP3 has Kh 7h (flush, king high).
Hero has 9s 6d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $108.60.

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OMG R U TONY G??

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haha yeah, the funny thing about this hand is that i was gonna raise the turn as long as it wasnt a flush card and low and behold i hit magic so i raised enough so he thought his flush draw price was good and let him hang himself on the river cuz he was a tardo

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UTG ($67.05)
UTG+1 ($99)
MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($306.65)
MP3 ($53.05)
Hero ($174.25)
Button ($98)
SB ($66.45)
BB ($207.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 6.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) 9, 6, T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3, Hero calls $3, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($10.50) 6 (2 players)
MP3 bets $5, Hero raises to $15, MP3 calls $10.

River: ($40.50) 4 (2 players)
MP3 bets $34.05 (All-In), Hero calls $34.05.

Final Pot: $108.60

Results in white below:
MP3 has Kh 7h (flush, king high).
Hero has 9s 6d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $108.60.

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OMG R U TONY G??

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haha yeah, the funny thing about this hand is that i was gonna raise the turn as long as it wasnt a flush card and low and behold i hit magic so i raised enough so he thought his flush draw price was good and let him hang himself on the river cuz he was a tardo

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there is nothing funny about this hand or this thread

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UTG ($67.05)
UTG+1 ($99)
MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($306.65)
MP3 ($53.05)
Hero ($174.25)
Button ($98)
SB ($66.45)
BB ($207.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 6.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) 9, 6, T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3, Hero calls $3, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($10.50) 6 (2 players)
MP3 bets $5, Hero raises to $15, MP3 calls $10.

River: ($40.50) 4 (2 players)
MP3 bets $34.05 (All-In), Hero calls $34.05.

Final Pot: $108.60

Results in white below:
MP3 has Kh 7h (flush, king high).
Hero has 9s 6d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $108.60.

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OMG R U TONY G??

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haha yeah, the funny thing about this hand is that i was gonna raise the turn as long as it wasnt a flush card and low and behold i hit magic so i raised enough so he thought his flush draw price was good and let him hang himself on the river cuz he was a tardo

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there is nothing funny about this hand or this thread

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Why come sir? I guess its a table dynamics issue, i dont play 96o, but it doesnt matter if i explain that or not, most people here head asplode when they think about implied odds on individual hands

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and then his last straw (actually earlier in the session but still good because it illustrates how EVERY hand was worth playing against him in position

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Totally worth playing 96o in position on him if he stacks off a full 50bb stack with the second nut flush on a paired board. Please tell us more about this concept of "implied odds", master.

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and then his last straw (actually earlier in the session but still good because it illustrates how EVERY hand was worth playing against him in position

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Totally worth playing 96o in position on him if he stacks off a full 50bb stack with the second nut flush on a paired board. Please tell us more about this concept of "implied odds", master.

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aa but apparentry you miss that he folds off with just about anything there A9 TT+, and ALL FLUSH draws not just second nuts but mehh i calls em like i sees em, there were four people in the pot and 96 has 17.5 percent equity against the 12 percent hand player first in and 50 percent hand player to my right, so i ll take a little loss on direct odds but to take the maniacs stack over and over again, its a marginal situation yes, but when he sucks this bad i will play every hand with him until th e table sucks it up and starts making iso plays

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what is all this strategy. the point is OP is awful at poker

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lol at calling flop with 66.

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QFT

On a side note suberuberbob, funny how you had to post who the girl in av is. I get like 10 pms a day asking who mine is, if only i knew i could satisfy these degen pervs!!

Re: How not to play KK

maybe this has been mentioned, but why did you call the flop in hand 1? Why is this hand so hilarious? Donk Vs Donk. horribly standard.

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flop call in hand 1 is not as bad as you people are making it out to be, its ok vs the type of opponent op describes