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chrismystero

11-06-2007 04:05 AM

$6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

I'm readless since it's early. I just wanna know how other people handle this situation, because I'm faced with it very often in the $6's...obv

I'm just going to post it in a couple steps, both not very difficult steps but I just wanna see what everyone else is doin':

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1435)
Hero (t1565)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t100, Hero ?

pushing22

11-06-2007 05:01 AM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

Its a $6 so I am guessing a lot of worse hands would call a shove.

TNixon

11-06-2007 05:19 AM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

From one of my $50s tonight, first hand:

Full Tilt Poker, $50 + $2.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): 1,500
SB: 1,500

Pre-Flop: (30) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, SB raises to 200, Hero raises to 1,500 and is All-In, SB calls 1,300 and is All-In

Flop: (3,000) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (3,000) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (3,000) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [ K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 3,000 Pot
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Twos) and WON 3,000 (+1,500 NET)
SB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Twos) and LOST (-1,500 NET)

People are dumb.

xSCWx

11-06-2007 12:20 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

he thought it was hold-em hi/lo

chrismystero

11-06-2007 03:41 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

So anyways, it seems people think Shove is the best option. However, as played...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1435)
Hero (t1565)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t100, Hero raises to t360, BB calls t260.

Flop: (t720) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero ??

daveT

11-06-2007 04:43 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

Whatever you do, do not fold. I still don't mind seeing a shove after the flop, tbh. There is no way that he believes that flop hit you. Although you are probably not going to get a super-loose call (maybe you will actually). These mini-bets almost always mean weak.

wrkingtobegreat

11-06-2007 07:26 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

At the six level...i guess the best play is just to push against a random.

chrismystero

11-06-2007 07:59 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

[ QUOTE ]
At the six level...i guess the best play is just to push against a random.

[/ QUOTE ]
Are you talking about preflop, or given the action in the next step postflop?

chrismystero

11-07-2007 01:06 AM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

Anyways, for anyone still interested, I obv. value-push the flop.

Results:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1435)
Hero (t1565)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t100, Hero raises to t360, BB calls t260.

Flop: (t720) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero raises to t1205, BB calls t975 (All-In).

Turn: (t3000) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3000) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t2870

Results below:
BB has Ad Th (high card, ace).
Hero has Kc As (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins t3000.

HokieGreg

11-07-2007 02:28 AM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

Whenever I say "it's a 6, you are probably giving them too much credit for a hand," I am going to refer to the above hand history for validation.

chrismystero

11-07-2007 03:21 AM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

[ QUOTE ]
Whenever I say "it's a 6, you are probably giving them too much credit for a hand," I am going to refer to the above hand history for validation.

[/ QUOTE ]
I read this JUST as I entered a $6 HU right now, then this hand happened:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1850)
Button (t1150)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button calls t10, Hero raises to t70, Button raises to t130, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t250) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t100, Hero raises to t350, Button raises to t1030, Hero calls t680.

Turn: (t2310) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2310) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2310

Results below:
Hero has Ah Kd (two pair, aces and fives).
Button has Jd 6h (two pair, jacks and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins t2310.

chrismystero

11-07-2007 03:41 AM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

Ok, Greg, got one more for you. After this one I'll stop backing up your point, since this thread has really turned LC.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1475)
Button (t1525)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button raises to t90, Hero raises to t270, Button calls t180.

Flop: (t540) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t300, Button raises to t600, Hero raises to t1205, Button calls t605.

Turn: (t2950) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2950) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2950

Results below:
Hero has Td Tc (two pair, aces and tens).
Button has 3s 2s (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins t2950.

TNixon

11-07-2007 02:12 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

[ QUOTE ]
Whenever I say "it's a 6, you are probably giving them too much credit for a hand," I am going to refer to the above hand history for validation.

[/ QUOTE ]
Swap 6 for 50, and you can use mine.

daveT

11-07-2007 05:59 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

Wow, and I got how much s* in my pooh-bah post?

HokieGreg

11-07-2007 08:14 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

[ QUOTE ]
Wow, and I got how much s* in my pooh-bah post?

[/ QUOTE ]

i never said that i thought he played all of these hands well

wrkingtobegreat

11-08-2007 12:36 PM

Re: $6 NLTRN- AK 3betted

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
At the six level...i guess the best play is just to push against a random.

[/ QUOTE ]
Are you talking about preflop, or given the action in the next step postflop?

[/ QUOTE ]

Preflop. I think postflop is fine also though.

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