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PugsMcGee 08-21-2007 03:56 PM

All-In Method
 
What pocket pairs should I be playing while using this method?

jedi 08-21-2007 03:58 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
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What pocket pairs should I be playing while using this method?

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Need more information:

What game are you playing? Tournament or Cash game? What kind of stack sizes as related to the blinds do you have? How many players at the table? What has the action been before you.

PugsMcGee 08-21-2007 04:01 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
Cash game. NL Tex Holdem. I'm buying in for Min every time.

No Fizzle 08-21-2007 04:11 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
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Cash game. NL Tex Holdem. I'm buying in for Min every time.

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So your plan in to buy in for the min, wait until you have a pocket pair, and then shove.

May I ask why?

PugsMcGee 08-21-2007 04:22 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
No not pocket pair...basically top ten hands. It's a valid method that is not "cheap" or "crazy."

jasonfish11 08-21-2007 04:24 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
Top 10 is usuall
77+
AK
or AQ

I would not reraise all in with 77-99 or AQ using this method but open shoving them isnt aweful.

tarheeljks 08-21-2007 04:50 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
you had better make sure you table select well b/c even the dimmest players will catch onto this quickly

choccypie 08-21-2007 04:55 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
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No not pocket pair...basically top ten hands. It's a valid method that is not "cheap" or "crazy."

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Valid method? Really??

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tarheeljks 08-21-2007 05:11 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
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No not pocket pair...basically top ten hands. It's a valid method that is not "cheap" or "crazy."

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Valid method? Really??

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he will push w/77 and win against KQ and then bitch later about losing to AK w/JJ

No Fizzle 08-21-2007 05:23 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
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No not pocket pair...basically top ten hands. It's a valid method that is not "cheap" or "crazy."

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No, it's not.

It's a method that requires no skill at all, will not produce consistent winning results (is -EV in the long run), and will annoy all of your tablemates to boot. It would also be boring as hell.

Why do you want to do this?

16710Pepsi 08-21-2007 05:27 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
I would see more than just one problem with this kinda "method".
1st: Nobody will call that. Therefore one would only get the blinds. Since an occurance of the top ten hands would not be too frequently one would loose overall in this instance because of the blinds one would have to put up oneself.
2nd: Somebody will call. In this instance the opponent will think that he has a fair chance of winning, meaning he probably has a hand that is about as good as yours. There it would come close to a coinflip sitution. In this case if you aren't God that you would be beyond probabilities and odds or feeling like Albert Schweitzer and wanting to donate your dough ...

I can't see any good reason for playing such a kamikaze approach, but am curious about who told you that it was a valid technique.

good day
timo

Quicksilvre 08-21-2007 06:06 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
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What pocket pairs should I be playing while using this method?

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Where did you get this? It sounds similar to the short-staking method Ed Miller talks about in Getting Started in Hold'em, but that involves much less pushing pre-flop.

tarheeljks 08-21-2007 06:19 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
it is highly exploitable

PugsMcGee 08-21-2007 06:24 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
I actually heard about it from 2+2. And I do think that I was talking about the short stacked method from Ed Miller's book.

BTW, I do not go all pre-flop usually unless I have a very good hand.

LadyWrestler 08-21-2007 06:54 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
I do not think this is a good idea. I believe anyone pushing any 10 hands in a cash game will lose money. With that said, if someone put a gun to my head and forced me to push all in with 10 hands of my choice, I would choose:

AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo, KQs, and KQo.

I believe these 10 hands would slow the cash bleeding the most.

Dankenstein 08-21-2007 07:18 PM

Re: All-In Method
 
Ok first of all you need to read ed miller's book Getting started in holdem. Second you should go to his website http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/c...stack-strategy and read the short stacking articles.

zer0c0ntr0l1278 08-22-2007 06:16 AM

Re: All-In Method
 
your going to be beat most of the time as everyone picks up on what your doing when they see your min buy in. Everyones going to steal your blinds. And they might just call to draw out on you. If you are going to do this you'd have to lower your range to get better results. GL


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