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jk3a 11-28-2007 10:09 PM

200nl Video
 
This is my first video I'm posting, so go easy on me [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Here is the link. File size is ~100mb. Just enter the code in the top right, wait 45sec, download.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TLIK0YU8



If you can't see the video in windows media player, download the TSCC codec from this site.
http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp



Think there were def. a few interesting spots worth discussing. All comments welcome. I noticed when testing the video that the video will lag behind the audio at times. To fix I just paused and restarted or fast forwarded 20 seconds ahead or so. Seemed fine most of the time though. ENJOY!

jk3a 11-28-2007 10:19 PM

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forgot to say, about 30min

thac 11-28-2007 10:21 PM

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This would be on Stars right? I'll watch it later tonight!

jk3a 11-28-2007 10:25 PM

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This would be on Stars right? I'll watch it later tonight!

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yes stars 6max, 2 tables

loosbastard 11-28-2007 10:41 PM

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Downloading now.

BGnight 11-28-2007 10:42 PM

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cool, will watch later

oh, and who is that guy in your PS avatar???

jk3a 11-28-2007 10:48 PM

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cool, will watch later

oh, and who is that guy in your PS avatar???

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same guy in my 2p2 avatar, friend of mine

Sorcerer808 11-28-2007 11:17 PM

Re: 200nl Video
 
I really liked what you said about not bluffing the JT4hh flop, it's such basic logic and I think I bluff/float too often there.

Solid vid, really. Maybe a little standard but w/e.

Something that caugh my attention is that you cbet differently than me. At 8:45 you cbet a super coordinated board and talk about double barreling a blank turn because they peel that flop so much.

I'd usually check behind then fire turn if they check, for the same reasons you stated. The double barrel will be called a lot too because most people are more than willing to c/c 2 streets with their draws.

At 29:30, also, I'd cbet that AK hand against these guys. The tricky player might not be so tempted to put a move there since there's still someone left to act.

Other than that, I don't open K9o / QJo in MP but w/e.

Thanks a lot, I'd like more!

AllIn3High 11-28-2007 11:23 PM

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OK, typed this up while watching, so I apologize if it's been covered.

around 13 mins in the hand where you call with the one card jack-high flush, I'm not sure I like calling that much vs. an unknown, that donk/call is nearly always a flush draw and once he quickly bets big on the river I don't think you're good often enough.

Shortly after you open J5s OTB vs. two relatively short stacked blinds and the SB is a loose donkey, I think that's hand is slightly to weak to open in that spot, but it's probably OK and it's my inner nit talking.

15 minutes in Kc9c hand you pay off on a flushed board 59J5J board. This one is really close, but is a weak player really betting a 9 there ever? I don't think so and the only missed draw he could realistically have is QT which i also don't think an unknown bluffs with very often. 4-1 is pretty decent odds, but meh. If a lot of people chime in saying folding is terrible I'm willing to reconsider [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

17:30 QQ hand, def. just fold the flop after checking, he's milking you 100% of the time, are you hoping he's trying to get it HU vs. shortie w/ TT? Also I'd probably make it slightly more PF to force him out if he has AK and make the decision easier if he shoves.

AJs hand where you get squeezed I'm taking a flop there, as you said it's v. likely he's squeezing and AJs is good enough in my book to see a flop in position, small blind is probably not coming along very often and when he is he never has you dominated. Besides when he does come along it puts extra pressure on the squeezer to not bluff the flop.

blackice781 11-29-2007 12:43 AM

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you should really cbet more, such as the QQ hand and a couple of AK hands even though they were multiway.

on the QQ hand, make it about a sidepotsized lead.

Rob121 11-29-2007 12:48 AM

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bah i just downloaded this video and i dont know where it went. what should i search for to find it on my computer? file name?

Sorcerer808 11-29-2007 12:54 AM

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just download something else and see where it goes?

Noam Chomsky 11-29-2007 01:16 AM

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thanks for the video. The quality was great. What did you record this with?

I definitely bet the third club on that KKJ board when you led with QT. It's a small pot but you pick it up there so often.

The QQ hand is an easy c/f in a protected pot. Listen to your own commentary and that should be fairly clear.

again, thanks!

jk3a 11-29-2007 01:31 AM

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thanks for the video. The quality was great. What did you record this with?

I definitely bet the third club on that KKJ board when you led with QT. It's a small pot but you pick it up there so often.

The QQ hand is an easy c/f in a protected pot. Listen to your own commentary and that should be fairly clear.

again, thanks!

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camtasia.

I agree about both of the hands you mentioned.

BadBeatsCrewDerk 11-29-2007 01:43 AM

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I really like this so far, especially your thought process during the hands relating to how the board looks. You need a new mic or need to cleanup the sound with Camtasia though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

blackice781 11-29-2007 01:51 AM

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explain please why the QQ hand is an easy flop c/f?

jk3a 11-29-2007 01:54 AM

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explain please why the QQ hand is an easy flop c/f?

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mostly because part of the pot is protected and he knows he's going to have to showdown his hand. His bet size was also kinda fishy as well, but it's such a dumb spot to bluff and we were assuming villain was reasonable and would know this/play accordingly.

The real key here is that he shouldn't expect us to fold given his bet size.

blackice781 11-29-2007 02:40 AM

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but if you bet, it is likely your opponent will fold because his 3bet calling range here pf is wider than you might think, especially since both you guys are deep. c/f is ok if there weren't a side pot; but in this case the side pot is bigger than the main pot. if this were checked to me, i'd make sure you didn't see anymore cards by stealing the side pot with ATC. in short, you need to protect your hand.

BadBeatsCrewDerk 11-29-2007 03:00 AM

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explain please why the QQ hand is an easy flop c/f?

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mostly because part of the pot is protected and he knows he's going to have to showdown his hand. His bet size was also kinda fishy as well, but it's such a dumb spot to bluff and we were assuming villain was reasonable and would know this/play accordingly.

The real key here is that he shouldn't expect us to fold given his bet size.

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It could be that he's betting that small because you're just fighting over a sidepot. People often don't know how to bet in these situations.

Like, taking a note based on that hand could be very misleading in the future. If I was noting it, I'd definitely mention it was a sidepot, just so I don't screw myself up later.

Xanta 11-29-2007 04:21 AM

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If BBC derk likes it, I don't see how I can't watch! I'll get on this tomorrow, looking forward to it.

Parsy 11-29-2007 04:39 AM

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Cheers for the vid.

I thought the QQ was a c/f on the flop but not a huge deal tbh.

One question, when you get 3 bet from the BB and you consider 4 bet bluffing, i'm guessing you're making it $120 with the intention of calling a shove 100% of the time?

1968 11-29-2007 04:40 AM

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With the QQ hand- I dont like the flop c/c... if you play it like this it should be with the intention of leading the turn.. Check raise is an option- but with minimal reads and a really fishy small bet- I think c/f is fine..
Def make a note of villains fishy play there..

Some minor things-
-you folded A6 in the CO. easy open. but you were talking- so maybe distracted.
-you opened K3o on button and cbet the most coordinated board possible. fold pre imo.
-not crazy about cold calling a UTG raise with 75s on button with minimal reads. Deeper yes.
-you opened J5s on button against 2 short blinds. fold this regardless of short blinds.. imo.

Noam Chomsky 11-29-2007 11:00 AM

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but if you bet, it is likely your opponent will fold because his 3bet calling range here pf is wider than you might think, especially since both you guys are deep. c/f is ok if there weren't a side pot; but in this case the side pot is bigger than the main pot. if this were checked to me, i'd make sure you didn't see anymore cards by stealing the side pot with ATC. in short, you need to protect your hand.

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meh....

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but if you bet, it is likely your opponent will fold because his 3bet calling range here pf is wider than you might think, especially since both you guys are deep. c/f is ok if there weren't a side pot; but in this case the side pot is bigger than the main pot.

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I would rarely bet QQ here if the pot were hu and I think it's generally not great poker to do so. I mean, sure, it's likely your opponent will fold but they're just folding worse hands, never better and only calling with better, never worse. Against a reasonably competent opponent you're just dumping money into the pot which you are in no position to defend. I love when people do it vs me though!!! I'm even less inclined to bet here in a protected pot because 99% of people are going to play sooo straight forward that there's really no need to complicate things.

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if this were checked to me, i'd make sure you didn't see anymore cards by stealing the side pot with ATC. in short, you need to protect your hand.

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This may be true of you and it may even be true of me but ime vs the average 1/2 anyhow, it's going to be much more profitable for you to fold and take a note on the 1 or 2 guys that will be bluffing here knowing they have to go to showdown cause most aren't doing that.

r1tony 11-29-2007 05:56 PM

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Appreciate the video man. I can't critic as I am still learning but enjoyed the quality and informative video.

Look for more in the future.

-Tony

ronitonline 11-29-2007 07:38 PM

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Why does everyone say TCC works with WMV, it installs into quicktime doesn't it? I've installed TCC multi and it never lets WMV play [censored].


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