200NL - 3 balling the turn on a bluff
 

Only played with villain for about ~50 hands at this point, he has seemed like an aggressive TAG, haven't seen him do anything unusual.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $445.60
Hero (BB): $294.30
UTG: $260.85
BTN: $183.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG raises to $7.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($15) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($15) 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $11.00, UTG raises to $35.00, Hero raises to $80.00

Pot Size: $130.00

Good spot?

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I like

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i have no problem with it...gotta have this as part of your arsenal

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looks like you got owned by QQ/KK

dont bluff UTG slowplays

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wtf... i hate the entire thing

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i have no problem with it...gotta have this as part of your arsenal

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wtf... i hate the entire thing

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nit

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wtf... i hate the entire thing

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[/ QUOTE ]no, he's right. preflop sucks too.

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looks like you got owned by QQ/KK

dont bluff UTG slowplays

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I can't remember the last time I've seen a TAG slowplay a TAG/LAG on a flop this drawy. I'm not sure I ever have.

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wtf... i hate the entire thing

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[/ QUOTE ]no, he's right. preflop sucks too.

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no, hes not right. I mean i don't like preflop, i just 3bet but its 4handed and Axs, seems fine to call there.

The bluff is fine, opponent folds here so much. I don't get why all the hate, slowplayed hands are only a small % of his range, and i think with the flop being 2flush its less likely he is trapping and more likely has like ATo or sth and folding turn

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Preflop is definitely frowned upon on this forum, but I'm not looking for suggestions about it.

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wtf... i hate the entire thing

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[/ QUOTE ]no, he's right. preflop sucks too.

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maybe but on the turn he hits his third diamond and a 4-6-7 straight combination...not to mention having an ace...stop nitting plz

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wtf... i hate the entire thing

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[/ QUOTE ]no, he's right. preflop sucks too.

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maybe but on the turn he hits his third diamond and a 4-6-7 straight combination...not to mention having an ace...stop nitting plz

[/ QUOTE ]wtf game are you playing where 3 card flushes/straights win? ...if you arent trolling, stop posting and read for a month.

Re: 200NL - 3 balling the turn on a bluff
 

This never looks great for discussion, but if your paying attention to the flow of the game and making good reads then this seems fine. Villian either has a monster or air.

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If he folded you were probably ahead.

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If he folded you were probably ahead.

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Definitely possible, but I can't very well call there.

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Looks OK. $80 might be a bit small tho? $92 or something looks more like you tripled his bet to the bad maths people.

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Yeah, $80 is definitely a small 3 bet, but I can't imagine he'd 4 bet shove air even if he thought I might be full of it, so I figured that this would would fold out all his non-monsters.

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If he folded you were probably ahead.

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Definitely possible, but I can't very well call there.

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Putting the two together might indicate bluffing is a bad idea. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

What's your plan for the river if he calls?

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If he folded you were probably ahead.

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Definitely possible, but I can't very well call there.

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Putting the two together might indicate bluffing is a bad idea. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

What's your plan for the river if he calls?

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c/f of course. I don't think he's calling with draws and seemed aggro enough to where I think he'd generally bet with them on the flop.

I really thought he had to have air here, because I figured he'd almost always c-bet (maybe he wouldn't c-bet KK/QQ, but even those I think he would at least some of the time). Weaker hands that have me beat are either folding or calling to my initial bet, so I thought his range was very polarized and weighted towards air.

He did fold, but I wondered for a bit if it was better than just check/folding turn.

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Pretty sure he's calling calling the turn getting 3:1 and good implied odds with 65 or w/e. If he's not it's a leak.

I like your turn bet, I'm not a big fan of the 3-bet without some kind of feel. Maybe that's a difference between mid and small stakes but when TAG pulls a weird line that looks fos it's typically not a total bluff, since they expect not to be taken seriously.

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youre repping likr 44 77 ot like 56ss

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I really need to start checking the flop then raising turn as the pfr. whenever I've hit a random hand hand on the turn after checking through it seems like I always get paid off.