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How is it, I heard the casino is amazing no word on the poker room. Is the room anything special. What do they spread

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The early word is that if you want to play poker only, the place to be is still Motorcity.

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Motorcity has become a circus.

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check my post from Tuesday. Motor City hasn't been as bad since Tues. Perhaps they'll add more tables. That would be nice.

I am really wondering if MGM's poker room will be around for more than a year. I understand that the music gets pretty loud outside the poker room. I haven't been there to play, but that's what I've heard.

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You mean like in loud music, which may "disturb" the poker players? The music is provided for persons who keep the place profitable -- not the poker players.

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I understand that the music gets pretty loud outside the poker room.

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Played there today.
Couple observations:
1) Casino is great! Beautiful, spacious, well thought out.
2) Card room blows! MCC is still the place, as mentioned above. I will say there is potential but there needs to be changes made YESTERDAY.
Buddy and I went to play today -- walked in and asked what they were spreading. Floor says, what do you want to play? We laugh and say, no what are you spreading? He replies the same, so I said how about a Roundy-by-round or PLO. He said: I've got 50-200 (1/2 NL), 100-300 (2-5NL) and starting a list for 300, no max (5/10NL). We took a seat at the 50-200 (no wait) and I proceeded to see some of the worst dealing I've ever seen in my life.
Average hands/down was about 8, yes 8 hands in a half-hour (last down we had 6 hands). Witnessed somebody pay $10 for their $2 blind; a flop of 345 and the dealer say "possible straight on the board"; and just lots and lots of dealer errors. My buddy and I just laughed and tried mightly to follow action and help. Had to explain to the dealers about dead buttons, people needing to post big blind every orbit, how to make side-pots etc.
WITH all of that said, room isn't bad. It is small and will hopefully expand. The floor staff seemed very interested in making the room work. When I pulled them aside to talk about what I was seeing at the table they seemed concerned and wanting to fix it.
I do hope they get these things fixed and some of the games switch from MCC to MGM. The room is cleaner and has potential to be nicer.
Oh yeah, to say the fish were swimming is an understatment! There were 3 at my table who had NEVER played in a casino before. There was some sickly sweet action happening.

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Yesterday I heard that on Friday night they only had 4 tables going! Can anyone confirm or deny?

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Can not comment on Fri -- Saturday @ 8:30 they had all tables full and a list of about 23 for 50-200 and about 10 on the other lists (including a couple of interest lists?)

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What the rake at NL 50-200 and NL 300-500? Is is the same as MCC? Anyone?

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I played there this past Thursday and Saturday. Yes, some of the dealers are slow, but they will improve. Some of the dealers and even management are new to poker, but I think it will get better over time. I really love the room and the action was phenominal, especially at the 2/5 NL game. 1/2 NL was definitely more fishy than MCC, due in part to a lot of people wanting to check out the casino and play some poker. I don't think this will last, but right now it is a bit softer. The issue with music is really only late at night on weekends. There is a bar right next door and if you are sitting close to it, it can be a bit distracting. But other poker rooms tend to be next to clubs accross the country, so this is nothing new. The rake, I believe is the same at MCC, and as of now there are no plans for a BBJ, which is fine with me.

It will be interesting to see how things will be like in another six months or a year. This past weekend the place with packed with people coming and going. The list was insanely deep and there was a line just to get on the elevator because of the nightclub. Alot of tourists and people from MCC were checking it out, and from what I heard, several MCC regulars will now make MGM their home, including myself. So we will see....only time will tell.

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Dealers are always slow in the beginning, but hopefully with time they get better. I sure like that lounge next to the poker room. It's a shame that they don't have any bigger games going.

Did they have a bigger game than the $300 max, $2-5? Is there any chance they'll raise the max buyin for that to $500?

I like the idea that there is no BBJ. Is there a direct number and can you call ahead to put your name on the list?

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You guys keep talking about MCC noone here plays Greektown? Have yet to make to to MGM because I am guessing they will not be spreading a LHE game, but plan on checking it out this week.
I heard no comps either, not sure if this is true, but if it is Greektown will keep my business.

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You guys keep talking about MCC noone here plays Greektown? Have yet to make to to MGM because I am guessing they will not be spreading a LHE game, but plan on checking it out this week.
I heard no comps either, not sure if this is true, but if it is Greektown will keep my business.

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Let's face it John. Greektown is now in third place. I kind of wonder how it was that they were leading the market a couple years ago.

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No comps at MGM.

Why would anybody play at Greektown if they have a choice? The floor is incompetent and rude, parking is a pain in the ass and it's one of the few casinos in the country that still allows smoking. Not to mention I called them yesterday to put my name on the list and they haven't answered yet.

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It is a bigger room, about 5 minute walk from Comerica Park and Ford Field, I always get a seat at Greektown, ALWAYS have to wait at least an hour to play at MotorCity. All that being said MMC is WAAAY nicer, the floor (management)is WAAAY better. If MMC had 18 tables like Greektown I would live there. As it is it takes too long for a table to open at MMC for me, plus I like the benefit of Greektown being in the middle of the action. MMC doesnot have anything around it to attract me to it.

Parking at Greektown is a pain, the smoking does not really bother me and the floor is bad.

And as far as Greektown being 3rd I would have to disagree with that. They still have the most tables, the most players, the bigger BBJ, better comps (they have wings now that are REALLY good) MGM and MMC may be nicer, but they do not have the tables to accomodate the players.

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Yes, some of the dealers are slow, but they will improve. Some of the dealers and even management are new to poker, but I think it will get better over time.

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Generally these things don't get better. When they hire management that is new to poker who do you expect to teach the dealers (and management) the correct way to do things? I can direct you to some rooms that have been open over 10 y ears that are still clueless about poker because they opened without poker people so they had nobody to teach them anything. The people there don't have 10 years experience, they have 6 months experience 20 times over.

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Lately MC has had a few open tables so the wait may not be as bad as it used to be

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No comps at MGM.

Why would anybody play at Greektown if they have a choice? The floor is incompetent and rude, parking is a pain in the ass and it's one of the few casinos in the country that still allows smoking. Not to mention I called them yesterday to put my name on the list and they haven't answered yet.

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And the smokin waitresses too.

I always thought of Greektown as poker boot camp, once you can play there, you can play anywhere.
When someone whines to me about the dealers at Foxwoods or the floor at the Bellagio I tell them "Go play at Greektown Detroit and learn."

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If you are talking confort and great floor staff, there is nobody that can compete with windsor. If you dont mind crossing the border which I dont, it is the best. The only bad thing is that the 10/20nl game only runs on fri/sat. Greektown is a dump. mcc is a circus and mgm just opened which makes it bad for atleast 6 months untill everybody gets over the hoopla.

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smokin' where? I remember when MC used to have smokin' waitresses a couple years back. Man has that changed...w/ a few exceptions during the day shift and a couple at night as well.

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Windsor in nice, but no comps. I heard a few months ago that they finally rake for a bad beat jackpot which is a plus IMO.
Yeah Greektown has about 3 waitresses that are smoking the rest are old or nasty.
Been a while since I have been to Motor City (when they opened the new gaming area and poker room), but I do believe the talent there has a slight edge.
I need to try Motor City again and see how things are going.

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the outfits at Gtown remain the king, err. Queen of all waitress outfits. I've seen the Wynn and the V, still they make me yearn for Detroiiit. I haven't seen the other city casinos though. Are their outfits similar?

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Yeah MotorCity waitress uniforms are similair. MGM I am not sure about it has been soo long since I have been there since they have never had a poker room until last week.

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Greektown is a pain in the ass to park but once you're there it's pretty easy to get onto a table. MCC is the easiest to park at but it's a pain to get on a table 90% of the time. I think the games are easier at Greektown though.I definitely want to check out MGM but i have a feeling the action will be staying at Greektown and MCC

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I would rather play the 10-20LHE @ MMC than the 3-6LHE @ Greektown and not for the obvious reasons, but I believe the 10-20 is easeir to beat than the 3-6 and again NOT because of the rake, but the level of the player.

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Huh? Did the remaining players at Gtown turn into 3-6 sharks?

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Why are there no comps at MGM Detroit? Do you get comps at the Bellagio? Are they planning on changing this? I find this [censored]...

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As far as I know they don't plan to change it. In Vegas I think you get $1/hr. MGM has never really embraced a poker room. It's always been more of a place where people can relax before blowing $500 in the slots. Let's face it, that's where the $$ is. MC and Greektown both have eliminated blackjack pits for slots.

Maybe things will change and maybe they'll get a 10-20nl or perhaps a 5-10nl, however people need to go there first and right now there is no reason for the higher limit players to go.

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I am thinking about hitting MGM DETROIT tonight after work and while I know I am new here and I am not sure how reliable you will find my report, I will post a summary of what I saw in a few days.

What is your guys opinions on RGP? I have been posting there pretty regular for about a year and decided to split my time between them and here.

I hope none of this gets censored (I have heard some horro stories at RGP and have no idea what gets censored here)

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I am thinking about hitting MGM DETROIT tonight after work and while I know I am new here and I am not sure how reliable you will find my report, I will post a summary of what I saw in a few days.

What is your guys opinions on RGP? I have been posting there pretty regular for about a year and decided to split my time between them and here.

I hope none of this gets censored (I have heard some horro stories at RGP and have no idea what gets censored here)

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Ban. TT, he shouldn't be allowed to advertise copeting forums on 2+2.

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I don't think its realistic to assume the 5/10 NL or higher can run on a regular basis at all three casinos, let alone more than one. 10/20 NL didn't last long at MCC, and let's face it most people just don't have the money. This isn't Vegas. Not even close.

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The 5/10nl never goes at Greektown anymore and it's getting tighter by the day at MC

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I know, it sucks. However the 2/5 NL action has been good recently. I was at MGM on Saturday and it was unreal. The average pot was > $500 and the stacks were pretty huge for that game. A lot of bluffing and overall craziness.

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i was interested to read here that the biggest game that ever goes is 10/20 NL at windsor. can anyone confirm that windsor is also the most likely place for there to be a 5/10 NL game on, say, a monday?

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windsor only has 10/20 on fri/sat, other than that its 2-5nl with a 200 cap,waste of time. Do not bother going unless its fri/sat

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No comps at MGM.

Why would anybody play at Greektown if they have a choice? The floor is incompetent and rude, parking is a pain in the ass and it's one of the few casinos in the country that still allows smoking. Not to mention I called them yesterday to put my name on the list and they haven't answered yet.

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Yeah. Greektown has done everything it could to drive business away. They don't answer the phone. When you get there, they treat you like (censored) from the moment you walk in to the moment you leave. Motor City, for all its faults, at least answers the phone and is trying. my main beef with them is the waitlists are ridiculous since the new room. I don't play slots or blackjack, so the wait kills.

Without the BBJ at MGM its worth trying out for that reason alone.

Good to hear. Detroit could use some competition.

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To those of you who've lived in Detroit pre-casinos can you tell me:

How much did they change the old Wonder Bread building into the Motor City Casino?

Did they build the MGM around the old IRS Data Center building or did the tear it down and start over?

Where is Greektown?

Thanks.

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Max. buyin still only $300 or has that (hopefully) changed? If they ever get a $5-10nl please post here.

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I was never in the buildings before they were casinos so I can't say. The MGM is a brand spankin' new building and cost $800,000. The old building was the IRS building I believe.

Greektown is off Randolph street in the heart of, ahm...Greektown; downtown Detroit.

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I was never in the buildings before they were casinos so I can't say. The MGM is a brand spankin' new building and cost $800,000. The old building was the IRS building I believe.

Greektown is off Randolph street in the heart of, ahm...Greektown; downtown Detroit.

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$800,000 is quite the bargain this day and age.