Recent most lopsided MLB trades.
 

I was reading the newspaper today and did not realize this lopsided trade was made. Have there been more lopsided trades recently? The trade I read about was AJ Pierzynski for Boof Bonser, Joe Nathan and Francisco Liriano. This trade, along with very good draft scouting, has been responsible for the Twins recent success.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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Roger Clemens:

February 18, 1999: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the New York Yankees for Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, and David Wells.

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From a Tribe fan perspective.
Ryan Drese for Travis Hafner.

Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew for Grady Siezemore, Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens.

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The Mets gave up Kris Benson for Jorge Julio & John Maine, which turned into Orlando Hernandez & John Maine... 2 starters who've continued to be better than Benson has. Not sure if it's lopsided per se but that was one of the better moves Manaya has made in my estimation.

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I think part of the MN deal is owed to Mark Prior, and his unwillingness to sign with MN, leading to MN drafting Mauer and making Pierzynski expendable

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they did win 3 of 4 AL Central titles before this deal, so they had a decent team(AL Central was weak during the run)

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The A's fleeced the Cardinals for Mulder.

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Some of those deals aren't that bad if you look at it from the view point of the team that was getting "fleeced".

The two other than the Liriano deal that come to mind off the top of my head are;

Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano
Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson

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tek and d-lowe for heath slocum was a steal

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Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano

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[censored] I forgot about this... thinking about this deal literally makes me sick to my stomach.

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Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano

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[censored] I forgot about this... thinking about this deal literally makes me sick to my stomach.

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The A's fleeced the Cardinals for Mulder.

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If Barton ever learns to hit for power, the deal may rival the Liriano deal.

I still dont understand the Felipe Lopez/Kearns/Ryan Wagner deal last year. I know the Reds wanted to make the playoffs by improving the bullpen, but why the hell pay so much for 2 mediocre Pen guys?

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Pedro for Delino [censored] DeShields. [censored] you Fred Claire.

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Roger Clemens:

February 18, 1999: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the New York Yankees for Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, and David Wells.

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I'm pretty sure Clemens was a FA the next year.
However David Wells for Mike Sirotka who never pitched an inning in the MLB after the trade.

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How could you trade Buhner?

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Roger Clemens:

February 18, 1999: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the New York Yankees for Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, and David Wells.

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I'm pretty sure Clemens was a FA the next year.
However David Wells for Mike Sirotka who never pitched an inning in the MLB after the trade.

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Wells pitched for a couple of months, got hurt and then became a FA at the end of the year for the ChiSox.

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Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew for Grady Siezemore, Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens.

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Also a tribe fan, so this one came to my mind first. That was to the Expos right?
Too bad Brandon Phillips couldn't hit in cleveland so we dumped him for basically nothing.

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Bobby Abreau and cash for players TBNL.

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Billy Koch for Keith Foulke.

Also, Mark Mulder for Dan Haren, Daric Barton, and Kiko Calero.

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Roger Clemens:

February 18, 1999: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the New York Yankees for Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, and David Wells.

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I'm pretty sure Clemens was a FA the next year.
However David Wells for Mike Sirotka who never pitched an inning in the MLB after the trade.

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The Clemens trade was the result of the Tim Johnson scandal.

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Astros trading Freddy Garcia and Carlos Guillen for 11 games of Randy Johnson(albeit amazing ones).

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How could you trade Buhner?

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My baseball people love Ken Phelps bat. They kept saying Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps.

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Shannon Stewart for Bobby Kielty

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Astros trading Freddy Garcia and Carlos Guillen for 11 games of Randy Johnson(albeit amazing ones).

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plus john halama who was a servicable back of the rotation guy for a few years.

mariners trading guillen to the tigers was also a bad deal. not sure but i think the m's got a bag and a half of balls.

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Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano

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[censored] I forgot about this... thinking about this deal literally makes me sick to my stomach.

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ugh

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Shannon Stewart for Bobby Kielty

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More like "Shannon Stewart for Bobby Kielty and $6M."

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the zambrano kazmir deal was terrible
arizona gave boston schilling for nothing
the mets traded jeff kent for baerga and espinoza

The yankees got david cone for 3 crappy minor league pitchers in 1995

Hell the mets trading cone was almost as bad- they got ryan thompson who couldnt hit anything that moved at all and Kent, who they traded before he got good.

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How could you trade Buhner?

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My people said Ken Phelps.

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These two were pretty bad both in 1997...

The Oakland Athletics trade first baseman Mark McGwire to the St. Louis Cardinals for pitchers T.J. Matthews, Blake Stein, and Eric Ludwick.

The Tampa Bay Devil Rays trade outfielder Bobby Abreu to the Philadelphia Phillies for shortstop Kevin Stocker.

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Travis Hafner for Einar Diaz is a winner

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David Ortiz

December 16, 2002: Released by the Minnesota Twins.

At least some of these other teams were smart enough to trade the players and get some value.

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As a mets fan:

kazmir for zambrano was god awful -- but im finally over it and wish kazmir success

The mets trade Melvin mora for 1 month of Mike Bordick seemed okay at the time but in retrospect was god awful as well


The mets trade Jeff Kent and Jose Viscaino for Carlos Baega and Alvaro Espinoza === what a bust

Ryan for Fregosi is still the worst of all time

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Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez.

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Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez.

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this deal won't cost the mariners much in terms of wins, but it has to rank fairly high on the "WTF were they thinking" list. how could this possibly work out well for them?

i hate to say it, but the beckett deal might be the most costly since the AJ Perienxdsfjklski deal [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander

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Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano

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[censored] I forgot about this... thinking about this deal literally makes me sick to my stomach.

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This was the rare trade that made everyone's jaws drop the instant it was made. No one that had a job outside of the Mets' front office liked this.

The Varitek/Lowe, Bagwell, Mulder deals were all bad, but for my money the Kazmir deal was the worst. Kazmir had tons of buzz as a future ace that would already be in the bigs except that the Mets were being careful with him, and Victor Zambrano was widely regarded as a 4th-5th starter with no control. When the trade went down, I figured that in a few weeks I'd hear that Kazmir would need Tommy John surgery. Guess not.

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even if kazmir never pans out to be a great pitcher that trade was awful because of what they could have traded him for at the time instead of zambrano

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Pretty much any deal done by the Mariners in the past 5 years has been grossly lopsided in favor of the other team. Their front office has their heads so far up their asses it even funny. The trade for Jose Vidro this past offseason was [censored] pathetic.

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John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander

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I think you know neither the definition of "recent" nor "lopsided." Doyle Alexander was 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA down the stretch.

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I think it's silly to call trades that involve veterans for minor leaguers who happen to shock everyone and turn out to be awesome as "most lopsided". The Kazmir trade is different as everyone at the time were even thinking "WTF?!?".