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djcolts 11-23-2007 01:44 PM

Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I'm going to Vegas in two weeks. Has anyone been to the Orleans poker room since the latest renovations have been done? Also, how soft is the 4/8 O8 game?

mordecaibrown 11-23-2007 02:04 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I played the orleans all summer when I wasn't at the rio during the series.
I thought the omaha game was one of the most miserable games I've ever played in my life.
They are all vegas regulars who are miserable people. Not saying all regulars in vegas are miserable. Just this group of unfortunate degenerates.
They criticize the dealers, the floor is called regularly because they complain so much, the dealers don't like working the game cause its filled with a bunch of stiffs.
To make it worse the game doesn't have much action. You know---it might be action filled but between all the bitching only five hands get dealt per hour.

I'd rather eat a pound of broken glass than play in this game.
On a positive note. They did have a ton of tourney action and a HORSE game got kicking some of the nights---don't know if this is because of the series or if it's a regular game.
They will start an interest list if you ask.
If that game gets going it's money in the bank!

Hope you get some comic relief outta this post but you can find me in the parking lot eating broken glass if I ever sit in that game again.

RR 11-23-2007 02:31 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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I played the orleans all summer when I wasn't at the rio during the series.
I thought the omaha game was one of the most miserable games I've ever played in my life.
They are all vegas regulars who are miserable people. Not saying all regulars in vegas are miserable. Just this group of unfortunate degenerates.
They criticize the dealers, the floor is called regularly because they complain so much, the dealers don't like working the game cause its filled with a bunch of stiffs.
To make it worse the game doesn't have much action. You know---it might be action filled but between all the bitching only five hands get dealt per hour.

I'd rather eat a pound of broken glass than play in this game.
On a positive note. They did have a ton of tourney action and a HORSE game got kicking some of the nights---don't know if this is because of the series or if it's a regular game.
They will start an interest list if you ask.
If that game gets going it's money in the bank!

Hope you get some comic relief outta this post but you can find me in the parking lot eating broken glass if I ever sit in that game again.

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In other words you played Omaha/8.

mordecaibrown 11-23-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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I thought the omaha game was one of the most miserable games I've ever played in my life.


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mordecaibrown 11-23-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
You crazy twoplustwoer's...
If you guys didn't reply with smart ass answers I bet this site might have some real quality info.
I wouldn't have to read 30 mins a day to find one quality post.
Just a thought Carpal \'Tunnel
Posts: 5052 all quailty I'm sure.

RR 11-23-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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You crazy twoplustwoer's...
If you guys didn't reply with smart ass answers I bet this site might have some real quality info.
I wouldn't have to read 30 mins a day to find one quality post.
Just a thought Carpal \'Tunnel
Posts: 5052 all quailty I'm sure.

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You described pretty much every Omaha/8 game in existence. It wasn't because you were at the Orleans, it was because you were playing Omaha/8.

mordecaibrown 11-23-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
Funny man!

Torello 11-23-2007 03:11 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I think I see what's going on here.

Eder 11-23-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I have played at Orleans a few times...holdem was fairly miserable atmosphere as well...I felt it was due to the locals occupying most of the seats...

pig4bill 11-23-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
[ QUOTE ]
You crazy twoplustwoer's...
If you guys didn't reply with smart ass answers I bet this site might have some real quality info.
I wouldn't have to read 30 mins a day to find one quality post.

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Only 30 min? What's your secret?

Howard Burroughs 11-24-2007 05:29 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I play the Orleans a lot.
I think you (O.P.) might like the O/8 games there. They often have 2 or 3 games going of O/8. Sometimes during busy times, they will have even more.


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"You described pretty much every Omaha/8 game in existence. It wasn't because you were at the Orleans, it was because you were playing Omaha/8."

Wow Randy, That was EXACTLY what I was thinking when I
read his post. Good observation Bro (as always).


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Everyone always says how the same people (locals) are at the Orleans but I'm amazed how often I'll be in a game with 8 or 9 people from out of town. YMMV.


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The remodel of the poker room is awesome and I still really dig the 24 hour Subway right by the poker room, the movie theater for breaks from poker, their many restaurants and some of my favorite cocktail girls (take care of me and my friends even when we are not playing), and favorite floor people and Brushes.




I find the hold'em games there (both limit & NL) to be pretty friendly all in all. Same with the mixed games, PLO, stud-8 and razz games that went a good part of the summer (well, razz just went a few nights but the stud-8 was to die for).



Hey, Good enough for Greg Maddux to play $10-20 there a few weeks ago, good enough for me :-)


Best of Luck

Howard

bav 11-24-2007 05:30 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I used to visit The Orleans pretty often. I'd stay there a lot when the strip hotels were expensive prior to moving here. And after I moved here I visited it somewhat often for a while. But it finally dawned on me, the place is just miserable.

The dealers are nastier than any on the strip. I've never seen a strip dealer come right out and hiss "why do you THINK I'm angry, sir--it's because nobody is tipping me, that's why" as she's flinging cards left and right and scowling and sighing and moaning after getting no toke on two hands in a row with a $6 pot.

And the players are worse...the 2/4 and 4/8 games are filled with 70+ yo pensioners playing on their social security checks, treating every $4 bet like it's life and death, and throwing things when they lose a $20 pot. If you want to see an octogenarian grandmother sound like a longshoreman who just dropped a crowbar on his foot, just checkraise her on the turn at the Orleans.

The NL1/2 is ok, actually...different set of players altogether. But alas, the same set of staff. I just can't find any adequate reason to go out there.

Howard Burroughs 11-24-2007 05:51 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
"And the players are worse...the 2/4 and 4/8 games are filled with 70+ yo pensioners playing on their social security checks, treating every $4 bet like it's life and death, and throwing things when they lose a $20 pot. If you want to see an octogenarian grandmother sound like a longshoreman who just dropped a crowbar on his foot, just checkraise her on the turn at the Orleans."

Wow, I have never seen these tight players when I'm playing at 3:00 in the morning. But I do see them all over town in the early afternoon.

FWIW, I've never heard a dealer complain about a tip at the Orleans. I'm in there almost every night. It sucks that, that happened Bav, but it's not a regular thing.


Best Wishes

Howard

throwitback 11-24-2007 07:01 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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The remodel of the poker room is awesome

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when did this happen?

and i agree w/ bav on this one. The combo between the staff/nits in this place tilt me too hard.

Howard Burroughs 11-24-2007 07:36 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
"when did this happen?"

A couple of weeks back I would say.


Best Wishes

Howard

Phat Mack 11-24-2007 09:00 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
It can be good if you catch it on the right bounce. The game is populated by regulars, many of whom are sitting around trying to earn comp dollars by playing with as little variance as possible. The good news is that they tilt fairly easily.

If you go during busy periods, you have the best chance of finding the games good. Count the tables. If there is only one, it will probably suck. If there are two, there is a 75% chance that both will suck. If there are three or more, it's better than even money that one of them has been infiltrated and has some good action.

If you want to play $10-$20 with the same miserable crew, go to the Wynn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Cactus Jack 11-24-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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"when did this happen?"

A couple of weeks back I would say.


Best Wishes

Howard

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I thought I was missing something. Haven't been there in a month, maybe.

I have to second the comments about the grouches at the Orleans. The only times I've ever wanted to take a chair and beat the crap out of someone has been at the Orleans. The players are terrible, but their attitudes are often even worse. And the dealers are among the worst, outside of Binions. It's close to my office, so it's a quick jump from work to poker, and outside of the Wynn, you can't beat the parking situation. But, it's rarely worth the bother.

Even with a cocktail waitress that has a backside that makes my eyes wander to her every time she's in the room. I love that woman, from afar.

It still ain't worth the bother. sigh

CJ

*TT* 11-24-2007 12:48 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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I find the hold'em games there (both limit & NL) to be pretty friendly all in all. Same with the mixed games, PLO, stud-8 and razz games that went a good part of the summer (well, razz just went a few nights but the stud-8 was to die for).

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Howard - didnt that only occur during the series this summer? This seems out of character for the games that are spread at the Orleans.

Phat Mack 11-24-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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I find the hold'em games there (both limit & NL) to be pretty friendly all in all. Same with the mixed games, PLO, stud-8 and razz games that went a good part of the summer (well, razz just went a few nights but the stud-8 was to die for).

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Howard - didnt that only occur during the series this summer? This seems out of character for the games that are spread at the Orleans.

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I only see them during the Orleans Open.

Howard Burroughs 11-24-2007 08:17 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
"Howard - didnt that only occur during the series this summer? This seems out of character for the games that are spread at the Orleans."

Hi TT - You are both right (TT & Phat Mack).


They went during WSOP AND during the Orleans Open (which was pretty much as soon as the WSOP ended).


Best Wishes

Howard

pig4bill 11-24-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
[ QUOTE ]
I used to visit The Orleans pretty often. I'd stay there a lot when the strip hotels were expensive prior to moving here. And after I moved here I visited it somewhat often for a while. But it finally dawned on me, the place is just miserable.

The dealers are nastier than any on the strip. I've never seen a strip dealer come right out and hiss "why do you THINK I'm angry, sir--it's because nobody is tipping me, that's why" as she's flinging cards left and right and scowling and sighing and moaning after getting no toke on two hands in a row with a $6 pot.

And the players are worse...the 2/4 and 4/8 games are filled with 70+ yo pensioners playing on their social security checks, treating every $4 bet like it's life and death, and throwing things when they lose a $20 pot. If you want to see an octogenarian grandmother sound like a longshoreman who just dropped a crowbar on his foot, just checkraise her on the turn at the Orleans.

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Although I've stayed there many times, I've only played there a few times because it is the unluckiest cardroom on earth for me. But the times I've played 2/4, it's been like any other 2/4 in Vegas - a few happy drunks, a couple clueless tourists, and a unabomber wannabe.

johnb 11-24-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room/Follow up Question
 
Ok gang, I was thinking about suprising my wife with a trip to Las Vegas in February. The Orleans was high on my list but it looks like it has declined in reputation on this forum. Given that, looking for a moderate priced casino with a poker room. Here are the ones I was thinking about:
1) Sahara
2) Monte Carlo
3) Gold Nugget

Any thoughts or other suggestions...jb

bav 11-25-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room/Follow up Question
 
Not sure what kinda budget you're on, but Sahara is NOT going to impress the little woman. That's a place college students go to (or me, 'cause I'm cheap and single and all I need is a bed and about 30 minutes of TV at the end of the day to suck the brainwaves out before sleep).

Monte Carlo is the clear winner for a trip with your wife. Nugget is a nice enough hotel, but there is NOTHING else downtown to please your wife. MC has a small poker room that's ok (nothing bigger than NL1/2 and 4/8, and often just NL1/2 and 2/4). But you've got easy access to MGM for slightly bigger games. There's nothing to the immediate north except construction, and that could be a downside--folks report sometimes the noise from City Center going up is unpleasant in the guest rooms.

Harrah's, Flamingo, and Bally's tend to be middle-classish, and have a nicer central location, and shouldn't disappoint the chick in your life. Check those out. I'd pick 'em in preference to MC, not because they are nicer (I think MC may be a tad nicer, actually) but they will be quieter and much better located.

pig4bill 11-25-2007 12:37 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room/Follow up Question
 
Monte Carlo is nicer for wives, Orleans is nicer for gamblers (24hr Subway is answer to a prayer at 3 am).

If you can squeeze out 6 hours of poker a day, the Wynn/Bellagio/Venetian at the poker rate beats all others.

djcolts 11-25-2007 10:54 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I appreciate all the comments. It doesn't sound like a place I'd enjoy. I'll stick with playing at the MGM, and I'll try my hand at 1/2 NL (Lord help me).

tehpokarplayor 11-25-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I have been to the MGM poker room many times, its my favorite, off strip poker room and wives to impress, green valley ranch obv

Eder 11-25-2007 02:08 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
I think best idea is to add like $40 / day to amount you are budgeting for your room...this will open up numerous hotels that are more wife friendly. Use internet search sites for reasonable deals on most hotels, but after getting the best internet price also phone the hotel you decide on direct as often they will offer you a slightly better price.

Budget at least $20 to toke the check in person...it is a +EV gamble.

Extra $40/day = maybe extra 1 1/2 hours poker/day...good excuse to wife why you are required to play so long and don't have time to drive her to the outlet mall.

johnb 11-25-2007 11:03 PM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
Thanks for the info. I probably should also say that I have been 'blessed' with a wife that LOVES the Sahara. She is the consumate $3 blackjack player and the Sahara was one of the few places that still offered limits that low. Last time we were there, I could leave her at the blackjack table with $30 bucks, cab down to the Mirage or Bellagio and play poker for 4-5 hours, come back and find her with the same $30 smashed out of her mind on free watered down screwdrivers and having the time of her life. Something about the move from $3 to $5 makes her to jumpy to play. I hear that the Sahara is gradually moving their limits up though and thought it might be a good chance to check out the other places...jb

govman6767 11-26-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Questions about the Orleans Poker Room
 
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Thanks for the info. I probably should also say that I have been 'blessed' with a wife that LOVES the Sahara. She is the consumate $3 blackjack player and the Sahara was one of the few places that still offered limits that low. Last time we were there, I could leave her at the blackjack table with $30 bucks, cab down to the Mirage or Bellagio and play poker for 4-5 hours, come back and find her with the same $30 smashed out of her mind on free watered down screwdrivers and having the time of her life. Something about the move from $3 to $5 makes her to jumpy to play. I hear that the Sahara is gradually moving their limits up though and thought it might be a good chance to check out the other places...jb

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Saharas daily tournaments rock 20 min levels wooo


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