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Sherman 11-07-2007 10:47 PM

These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
Watch and learn...

Poker Stars, $10 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: 1,440
UTG+1: 1,440
UTG+2: 1,400
MP1: 1,830
MP2: 1,435
Hero (CO): 2,080
BTN: 300
SB: 2,600
BB: 2,475

Pre-Flop: (75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to 150</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls 150, 3 folds

Flop: (375) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets 200</font>, Hero calls 200

Turn: (775) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 550</font>, UTG folds

Results: 775 Pot
Hero mucked 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and WON 775 (+425 NET)

jonnyd 11-07-2007 10:54 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
lol @ button's stack i dont like this with him behind you.

Proofrock 11-07-2007 11:04 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
I hope this is a level of some kind.

bismillahno 11-07-2007 11:06 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
easy shove pre...

markbris 11-07-2007 11:38 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
I like it alot. The short stack will most likely not come in against an utg raise and caller. Then you can play the pot in position with a decent hand. If the shorty shoves then we can reshove if utg just calls and race with the overlay, or if he moves in then easy fold.

ChipSpeak 11-07-2007 11:46 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
You had a read right...
I love floating in position, but I generally want to pick up a decent read prior.

jcg2005 11-08-2007 04:43 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
i personally min bet turn to induce bluff shove but as played nh

swede554 11-08-2007 05:22 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Since when did calling an UTG raise with J2s (yes even with position) become profitable? Are you floating the flop if it's 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

JammyDodga 11-08-2007 06:31 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 

I don't like at all. What possible read have you got that makes this profitable?

Hmm, is this a level? Cos its pretty bad...

ThePershore 11-08-2007 07:45 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
I assume this is a level of some kind, cos it's pretty bad IMO.

But if not, you got lucky in that you: a) hit a flush draw and b) he had a pocket pair and was afraid of the Ace.

jonnyd 11-08-2007 09:08 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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I like it alot. The short stack will most likely not come in against an utg raise and caller. Then you can play the pot in position with a decent hand. If the shorty shoves then we can reshove if utg just calls and race with the overlay, or if he moves in then easy fold.

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lol shortstack is going in with a whole lot of hands...
and reshoving and assuming a race is retarded and spew

FortunaMaximus 11-08-2007 09:37 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
nh.

I might raise flop but turn's spew. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BarryLyndon 11-08-2007 11:17 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
It's fine, every street. It's not special. Just a good solid float play with understanding of pot control + semi-bluff equity on the turn. You can do this even lighter, and I have a feeling sherman had a plan for that too.


Barry

Sherman 11-08-2007 11:55 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
Ok, so I tried to fold PF. Of course I mis-clicked and hit call. The rest of the hand is pretty straight forward.

I get bored sometimes and just thought I'd post this "brilliant" play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

levAA 11-08-2007 11:57 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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Ok, so I tried to fold PF. Of course I mis-clicked and hit call. The rest of the hand is pretty straight forward.

I get bored sometimes and just thought I'd post this "brilliant" play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol - great post

ThePershore 11-08-2007 11:58 AM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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It's fine, every street.

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I hope you don't mean pf...

I agree everything post flop is fine.

ZenMusician 11-08-2007 12:00 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
Please, please post this on P5s and link us to all
the math and stuff they provide! kthanks!

-ZEN

BarryLyndon 11-08-2007 12:01 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ok, so I tried to fold PF. Of course I mis-clicked and hit call. The rest of the hand is pretty straight forward.

I get bored sometimes and just thought I'd post this "brilliant" play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Sherman,

Did you have a read on UTG or did you really misclick?


Barry

Sherman 11-08-2007 12:06 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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Ok, so I tried to fold PF. Of course I mis-clicked and hit call. The rest of the hand is pretty straight forward.

I get bored sometimes and just thought I'd post this "brilliant" play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Sherman,

Did you have a read on UTG or did you really misclick?


Barry

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I really misclicked. I wasn't paying much attention and had no real reads on anyone at the time.

Edit: FWIW, both Bismillahno and Markbris were online at the time and I told them about this thread. They posted knowing that I misclicked PF and b/c I thought they could make the thread more interesting by taking me seriously. Thanks Nick &amp; Mark. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

markbris 11-08-2007 02:11 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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I like it alot. The short stack will most likely not come in against an utg raise and caller. Then you can play the pot in position with a decent hand. If the shorty shoves then we can reshove if utg just calls and race with the overlay, or if he moves in then easy fold.

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Obv this reasoning makes no sense as the shorty will shove a ton of stuff here and reshoving if utg just calls is really bad as well. J2s sux obviously as well. I came up with this after I talked to sherman about the misclick and we decided it was good stuff to post and see what happened.

Steroid Boy 11-08-2007 02:18 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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Please, please post this on P5s and link us to all
the math and stuff they provide! kthanks!

-ZEN

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please

jcg2005 11-08-2007 10:27 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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Please, please post this on P5s and link us to all
the math and stuff they provide! kthanks!

-ZEN

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please

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hamnegger 11-08-2007 11:27 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
i think perception affects peoples post's on here which i think is actually not a good thing. sherman is one of the brightest best players on here so what he does automatically gets credibility and acceptance. this was an accident as he admits but i don't see calling utg raiser w j2 as a good play but im reading nice good play etc. if someonelse (like myself) posted this id be an idiot. as played he got a favorable flop and played it very well.

Sherman 11-08-2007 11:56 PM

Re: These are the kind of plays you can make when you are good...
 
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i think perception affects peoples post's on here which i think is actually not a good thing. sherman is one of the brightest best players on here so what he does automatically gets credibility and acceptance. this was an accident as he admits but i don't see calling utg raiser w j2 as a good play but im reading nice good play etc. if someonelse (like myself) posted this id be an idiot.

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Part of the point of my post was this right here.

That, and I was just bored and this sounded like fun. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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