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Assani Fisher 10-16-2007 09:13 PM

Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
I just woke up an hour ago....How exactly has this been going on all day and nobody here even comments on it???

AM 570 reporting(and apparently confirmed by Lakers announcer and former player MIcheal Thompson) that the following deal is in place:

Kobe Bryant

FOR

Josh Howard
Jason Terry
2 first rounders




Kobe is reported to have been at practice today but did not participate for "unknown reasons."

Also reported that Kobe's Agent Rob Pelinka was seen talking to Jim Buss outside the facility.

Kos13 10-16-2007 09:14 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
Woah woah woah...I'm a Mavs fan, and I haven't heard ANYTHING about this at all. WTF?

(I hate Kobe, but please let this be true.)

bowens 10-16-2007 09:15 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
This doesn't even seem close, at first glance. Although, no deal is probably "close" for Kobe. Hmm...

sethypooh21 10-16-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
Exciting implications.

Kos13 10-16-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.p...&start=144

"Sorry guys. Sounds like AM 570 doesn't know what they were talking about.

There was a leak in Kobe's locker so the team had him change lockers.

All of a sudden it's "KOBE CLEANS OUT LOCKER!!!!""

Anacardo 10-16-2007 09:26 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
You cannot be [censored] serious.

tdarko 10-16-2007 09:27 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
Wait, wait, wait...I [censored] live in Dallas and listen to sports radio all day long and haven't heard anything about this?

Russ M. 10-16-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
[ ] Thread delivers

Claunchy 10-16-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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Wait, wait, wait...I [censored] live in Dallas and listen to sports radio all day long and haven't heard anything about this?

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nation 10-16-2007 09:32 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
yeaaahhhh there's nothing on espn

BobJoeJim 10-16-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
You're not blind, there really isn't one. Guess why?

kidcolin 10-16-2007 09:36 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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[XXX] Assani delivers

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Kos13 10-16-2007 09:37 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
Apparently, this was a rumor that spun out of control. But thanks for getting my hopes up.

Assani Fisher 10-16-2007 10:00 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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You're not blind, there really isn't one. Guess why?

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There was a major rumor on sports talk radio about arguably the greatest player on the planet being traded to a championship contender....regardless of whether or not it turns out to be a true rumor, you don't think thats worth discussing?

WTF at all the "thread does not deliver" BS??? There was a major rumor that I reported that apparently you guys hadn't heard of....its a bad thing that I informed you of it? I can't control whether or not the rumor turns out to be true or not.

Triumph36 10-16-2007 10:01 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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Claunchy 10-16-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
What an amateur onslaught. I offer coaching BTW if you're interested (hope this is okay, if not mods plz delete).

BigSoonerFan 10-16-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
<-Dallas fan: don't want him

Assani Fisher 10-16-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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Maroney's corralary isn't going to apply when your fix ends are separated. Remove your bustouts and redo the entire thing imo.

Franchise 60 10-16-2007 10:13 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

BigSoonerFan 10-16-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

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It isn't retarded. I'd like a player with better character, not a selfish prick.

I didn't want TO (and could not care less if he left).

I don't want Bonds.

Nonfiction 10-16-2007 10:17 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

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It isn't retarded. I'd like a player with better character, not a selfish prick.

I didn't want TO (and could not care less if he left).

I don't want Bonds.

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racist obv

ClassicBob 10-16-2007 10:18 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
If we can get Kobe while keeping Dirk and Harris, you'd be batshit insane not to love the deal.

Kos13 10-16-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
If we could get Kobe without giving up Dirk, it would be a fantastic trade. If you don't think so, you're an idiot.

tdarko 10-16-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
BigSoonerFan,

Please don't be in the room if this decision could somehow be made. I for one would like the greatest basketball player on the planet to be playing for Dallas.

Franchise 60 10-16-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

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It isn't retarded. I'd like a player with better character, not a selfish prick.


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You could actually be an NBA GM

http://www.nba.com/media/act_brian_scalabrine.jpg

But that isn't saying a lot...

Billy Bibbit 10-16-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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It isn't retarded. I'd like a player with better character, not a selfish prick.

I didn't want TO (and could not care less if he left).

I don't want Bonds.

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Last I heard, A.C. Green is available.

Assani Fisher 10-16-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

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Seems like a moot point too, although you're right that it wasn't making much sound.

dawade 10-16-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
ESPN NBA Analyst Chad Ford's column today...

The Favorite

Chicago Bulls
This is no surprise. It's well-known Bryant wants to play in Chicago, and the Bulls have the roster to get a deal done.

After passing on Pau Gasol, losing in the conference semifinals decisively and missing out on Kevin Garnett, you have to believe that the Bulls and GM John Paxson are feeling some pressure.

So who would they give up? From the sound of things, they won't part with Luol Deng (which could turn out to be a deal-breaker).

Without Deng involved, they have two basic packages to offer:

Option 1: Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Joakim Noah, Viktor Khryapa and Adrian Griffin.
(View the deal in our Trade Machine.)


This deal would work, even though Hinrich is a base-year compensation player.

It would give the Lakers a new backcourt and a player in Noah with the personality and star appeal to thrive in L.A.

But would the Bulls lose too much? Who would play point guard for them? Would a combo of Bryant, Deng and Ben Wallace trump Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce in the East?

Option 2: Ben Gordon, Joakim Noah, Viktor Khryapa, Adrian Griffin, P.J. Brown (in a sign-and-trade) and two first-round draft picks.

This deal probably would work better for the Bulls. They would have a core that would make them the favorites to win the East.

The question is whether it would be enough for the Lakers. Gordon and Noah are nice pieces, but the draft picks would likely be low first-rounders. Adding Brown (in a deal that would allow the Lakers to release him after Year 1) would give them roughly $14 million in cap relief next summer. But with Gordon looking for a long-term extension, he could make much of those savings go away.

Note: The Bulls could throw in Andres Nocioni to sweeten the deal, but he can't be traded until mid-December per league free agent rules. And of course, players like Chris Duhon and Tyrus Thomas could be used in other versions of the options above.

dawade 10-16-2007 10:30 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
He also mentions: Washington, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Memphis as all somewhat likely options.

Dallas was not mentioned anywhere in the column.

Franchise 60 10-16-2007 10:30 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

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Seems like a moot point too, although you're right that it wasn't making much sound.

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nit. sorry I forgot to bring my proper english to the internet forums.

And how is my point not solid? That deal would never happen.


tdarko 10-16-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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Dallas was not mentioned anywhere in the column.

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Mark Cuban job title:

Owner/dancer/secret agent.

jmill2511 10-16-2007 11:19 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
[ QUOTE ]
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

[/ QUOTE ]

It isn't retarded. I'd like a player with better character, not a selfish prick.

I didn't want TO (and could not care less if he left).

I don't want Bonds.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol

mmbt0ne 10-16-2007 11:52 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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He also mentions: Washington, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Memphis as all somewhat likely options.

Dallas was not mentioned anywhere in the column.

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Literally impossible. Until the ownership situation gets figured out nothing of this magnitude will happen.

See the early deal for Amare Stoudamire that everyone agreed to except for one owner.

LurchySoprano 10-16-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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<-Dallas fan: don't want him

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Retarded.

If you can get Kobe without giving up dirk than you have to do it. Especially if it was for a deal like this (which wouldn't get it done so I guess this is a mute point).

[/ QUOTE ]

It isn't retarded. I'd like a player with better character, not a selfish prick.

I didn't want TO (and could not care less if he left).

I don't want Bonds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Please. If you are Dallas and have a chance to get Kobe without giving up Dirk or Harris, you do it in a second. That way, Kobe can take the big shots in the playoffs instead of Dirk wilting under the pressure and coming up small again.

tdarko 10-17-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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Please. If you are Dallas and have a chance to get Kobe without giving up Dirk or Harris, you do it in a second. That way, Kobe can take the big shots in the playoffs instead of Dirk wilting under the pressure and coming up small again.

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Lol, actually it is to have 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA on the same team. Dirk has taken plenty of big shots and came up big--the coming up small is all anyone remembers.

vhawk01 10-17-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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He also mentions: Washington, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Memphis as all somewhat likely options.

Dallas was not mentioned anywhere in the column.

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Literally impossible. Until the ownership situation gets figured out nothing of this magnitude will happen.

See the early deal for Amare Stoudamire that everyone agreed to except for one owner.

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Literally?

tuq 10-17-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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BigSoonerFan,

Please don't be in the room if this decision could somehow be made. I for one would like the greatest basketball player on the planet to be playing for Dallas.

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Nash isn't going back brah. Your boy Cuban had his chance to resign him but disrespected his skillz and street value.

THAY3R 10-17-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
http://freshnessmag.com/v4/wp-galler...obe_II_001.jpg

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http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/monkey.jpg

Billy Bibbit 10-17-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
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FYP

dawade 10-17-2007 12:38 AM

Re: Am I blind or is there really no Kobe to Dallas thread???
 
Here's the rest of Ford's article..

The Contenders

1. Washington Wizards

Could the Wizards get both MJ and Bryant in the same decade?

The Wizards' package: Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young, Darius Songaila and a first-round draft pick.
(View the deal in our Trade Machine.)

The Wizards would immediately become Eastern Conference contenders. And with Arenas expected to opt out of his contract next summer, the Wizards would remove the risk that he bolts for another destination … while getting Bryant right now.

For the Lakers, Arenas would return home to add some sizzle to the roster, and Young, another local product, is an athletic 2-guard who would eventually take Bryant's spot in the lineup.

Another possibility would be a three-way deal that would send Bryant to the Bulls, Arenas, Young and Noah to the Lakers, and Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, Viktor Khryapa, Griffin and a re-signed Brown to the Wizards.


2. Phoenix Suns
The Suns flirted all summer with making a blockbuster trade. While Shawn Marion's name dominated the headlines, sources told both Marc Stein and me this summer that the Suns were willing to give up Amare Stoudemire to get Garnett.

So would they be willing to let Stoudemire go to get Bryant? If the answer is yes, can the Lakers really say no to that?

The Suns' package: Stoudemire and Raja Bell.
(View the deal in our Trade Machine.)

The deal would make the Suns the smallest team in the league. But with the trade of Kurt Thomas this summer, they're already heading in that direction. This would make the Suns even more extreme, but still a serious contender.

On the Lakers' side, Stoudemire is probably the best talent that they could get in return for Bryant. Pair him with Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, and the Lakers have an outstanding front line. But what would they do in the backcourt?


3. Atlanta Hawks
The Hawks are the most screwed-up franchise in the business, and they've missed the playoffs eight straight years. So this one's a long shot.

But the Hawks have the pieces to make the Lakers look long and hard at a deal: namely All-Star Joe Johnson and potential All-Star Josh Smith, along with expiring contracts.

The Hawks' package: Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Lorenzen Wright and Anthony Johnson.
(View the deal in our Trade Machine.)

Now, would Bryant want to go to Atlanta? And would the Hawks have enough talent to win the East with Bryant?

It's questionable. Josh Childress is a very good role player, but is he ready to be Bryant's Scottie Pippen? Al Horford, Marvin Williams and Acie Law IV have potential, sure -- but they would have to meet the high expectations that come with being lottery picks.

Then again, in the East, Bryant could take this team to the Finals. The questions would be if Bryant sees it that way and if the Lakers see this as their best offer.


4. Memphis Grizzlies

I know the mention of the Grizzlies -- a team some seem to believe isn't really in the NBA -- may cause you to scratch your head, but hear me out.

First, they have the kind of young, exciting athletes the Lakers would be looking to rebuild around. Second, the Grizzlies would still have a strong enough core to be contenders, even in the West. Finally, Jerry West -- a Bryant confidant -- moved from the Lakers' front office to Memphis, and his dream was always to have Bryant join him. Maybe he would come out of retirement to make it happen.

The Grizzlies' package: Mike Conley Jr., Rudy Gay, Mike Miller and Hakim Warrick.
(View the deal in our Trade Machine.)

This would have to work for the Lakers. They would be set at the 1, 2 and 3 with this deal. Conley and Gay have the potential to be stars. With Miller and Odom providing veteran balance, the further development of Bynum would make the Lakers one of the best teams in the West.

The deal would also be a slam dunk for Memphis. With Pau Gasol and Bryant, the Grizz would have two legit All-Stars. Kyle Lowry and Damon Stoudamire can man the point, and Darko Milicic projects to be better than what Bryant's had in the middle since Shaq left.


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