100nl i get 4 bet by a reg
 

villian is ryancmu.
I dont like how i played this hand, should i have 3 bet this vs him in the 1st place or should i have flatted. I thought that he was very capable of raising light here against the limpers, and the times i have previously three bet him which is probably a lot i cant think of a single time he didnt 4 bet me so i honestly was considering shoving here because of this.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($108.95)
BB ($98.85)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($54.70)
MP1 ($99.45)
MP2 ($148.80)
MP3 ($200.05)
CO ($100)
Button ($104)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $49</font>, Hero???

thoughts?

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yes 3b. i lean towards folding cuz i dont feel many ppl 4b light at 100nl

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I would fold. And 3bet is fine, flat would be awful because you are OOP. Also, haven't played with ryancmu and don't have any stats of him. What his stats is?

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villian is ryancmu.
I dont like how i played this hand, should i have 3 bet this vs him in the 1st place or should i have flatted. I thought that he was very capable of raising light here against the limpers, and the times i have previously three bet him which is probably a lot i cant think of a single time he didnt 4 bet me so i honestly was considering shoving here because of this.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($108.95)
BB ($98.85)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($54.70)
MP1 ($99.45)
MP2 ($148.80)
MP3 ($200.05)
CO ($100)
Button ($104)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $49</font>, Hero???

thoughts?

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He has 4/bet you EVERYTIME you 3/bet him? I think you mistyped that, and he has never 4/bet you...right?

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no i typed correctly

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Um, insta-fold?

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Um, insta-fold?

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cold, I fold. If he kept repopping, I'd start shoving and laugh as he shows 77 or something.

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yeah if this is his first time 4betting you then easy fold here

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Haha, yea he might be right, I think I 4bet him everytime.

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jackass

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3 bet good, you cant shove 5-bet AQo though, find another way to get back at him. Also if he keeps this up he's going to be running into some big hands of yours eventually, just make sure not to give off any betting tells.

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and the times i have previously three bet him which is probably a lot i cant think of a single time he didnt 4 bet me so i honestly was considering shoving here because of this.

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ding, ding, we have a winner...He'll have to fold unless he has AA doesn't he?

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no i typed correctly

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so...i'm confused. what's your question? you've folded to all of his 4/bets before, then that must mean that AQ is almost the very top of your range here?

you've never picked up a real hand when you've 3/bet him? that's kinda crazy.

Re: 100nl i get 4 bet by a reg
 

shove

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Let me get this straight. Every single time you've 3-bet him, he has 4-bet and you have folded?

At some point you have to fight back. I shove this

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the times i have previously three bet him which is probably a lot i cant think of a single time he didnt 4 bet me

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How often were there limpers before ryancmu? He is probably putting you on a much tighter 3betting range since there were limpers (people usually don't 3bet nearly as light if there are limpers before the LP raiser), and is tightening his 4bet range. AK is still a clear push here. No way AQ is a clear fold.

This is a mathematical decision. Fold equity is nonexistent because of the pot odds he is getting. Put him on a weighted range and make a decision.

It sounds to me like you 3bet him almost as often if there are limpers before him as when he openraises. In that case his 4betting range will not change much because of the limpers, and shoving is +EV.

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I had AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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