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jj12 10-11-2007 08:31 PM

multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
UTG is a spewy tag (22/17/3). The cold caller is (33/15/2) over a 200 hand sample. I don't know much about his game. However his stats suggest that while he may have some leaks he is not too weak of a player so I think AQ should be discounted. He instacalled my three bet. Do you play this in any other way? I just feel I am running into AA/QQ too often here.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1256
Hero: $1106.25
CO: $1000
Button: $941.71
SB: $979.25
BB: $709

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $150</font>, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($465, 3 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $250</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $791.71</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

holdemvin 10-11-2007 08:36 PM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
i pay him off, i think AA utg would shove pf and the cold caller does look like QQ JJ, but i dont see you folding considering the pot and he only has 791 TOTAL

Tokyo!! 10-11-2007 10:57 PM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
check the flop

DemiPLZ 10-11-2007 11:37 PM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
i think its a pay off situation considering that button didn't reraise preflop. u be up against Qx alotta times, only three hands to worry about. 77 55 or AA (but given the no rereaise preflop) u have to call his all in

obiedman 10-11-2007 11:51 PM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
wtf are people talking about in this thread

jj12 10-12-2007 02:41 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
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check the flop

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wtf. are we c/f, c/r? what? whats your reasoning.

tcorbin16 10-12-2007 03:23 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
wat the [censored] at this post. easy open fold.

cheer 10-12-2007 03:39 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
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check the flop

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wtf. are we c/f, c/r? what? whats your reasoning.

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cr prob

Cooper 10-12-2007 05:13 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
Snapcall

danjohncochane 10-12-2007 06:51 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
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i think its a pay off situation considering that button didn't reraise preflop. u be up against Qx alotta times, only three hands to worry about. 77 55 or AA (but given the no rereaise preflop) u have to call his all in

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Wtf? How can he have 77 and 55???

MegaFossil 10-12-2007 08:44 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
Can't fold, call, but don't pump your fist by any means.

Cooper 10-12-2007 09:17 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
AA most is most likely hand that beat you, can't see him shoving top set on a dry board, you still have to call.

skier_5 10-12-2007 09:43 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
check the flop, and fold to a button bet unless he has a history of cc 3bets light.

Imrahil 10-12-2007 10:28 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
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check the flop, and fold to a button bet unless he has a history of cc 3bets light.

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I thought I was nitty for thinking this but that Q is a terrible card and he may very well have AA. Doubt he cc pf w/ AQ.

EDIT: well given his stats he may very well have AQ here. I dunno.

MilkMan 10-12-2007 10:36 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
2p2 is so awesome now this is how it always should have been

jj12 10-12-2007 11:33 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
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AA most is most likely hand that beat you, can't see him shoving top set on a dry board, you still have to call.

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skier I don't know anything about his game besides his stats. So you are taking this line against a relative unknown? I just have trouble giving this guys too much credit.

Yeti 10-12-2007 11:38 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
check the flop. given those stats i doubt i'm getting away, but by checking you give him the chance to do something retarded AND you get to see how utg reacts.

jj12 10-12-2007 11:40 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
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check the flop. given those stats i doubt i'm getting away, but by checking you give him the chance to do something retarded AND you get to see how utg reacts.

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yeti I bet 250 so that if both go all-in I can fold. I was planning to call one push. the 250 bet looks kinda stabby too. I could have AK or something.

MATT111 10-12-2007 11:44 AM

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check the flop. given those stats i doubt i'm getting away, but by checking you give him the chance to do something retarded AND you get to see how utg reacts.

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Ding Ding Ding

Yeti 10-12-2007 11:45 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
jj12,

would you ever bet here with AK, let alone $250? serious question...i don't, and i'm pretty sure most don't.

jj12 10-12-2007 11:50 AM

Re: multiway 3-bet pot w/KK 1000NL
 
I don't but in the games that I play in a lot of people are retarted and do. Also I don't think Button folds TT-JJ to 250 bet. He may (not too probable thouhg) peel with AK as well.


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