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arsdraconis 11-10-2007 04:23 AM

RNG software
 
i'm new and hopefully avoiding a post that's already a thread...i have a question about Random Number Generator Hack software that i saw advertised. i'm a purist and would never use it because it would make my game no fun at all, and i won't post the address just in the case that it MIGHT be real and i don't want anyone ordering it. I saw a site claiming to have software that could hack the RNG in ALL the popular poker sites there are. Can this really be? i asked myself, surely not. BUT they do a relly nice job convincing you with many FAQ's and whatnot. Someone put me at ease here.

Dietch 11-10-2007 06:01 AM

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This software doesnt work as it doesn't autoread the poker site information as many software do (PT, indicator etc...).
Don't believe or expect anything from this soft.
Nice first post, I know.

Rek 11-10-2007 06:07 AM

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Is this a serious post?

Assuming someone could hack the RNG what do you think they would do? make millions of dollars winning at poker every day or advertise it on the internet and sell it for a few dollars a go?

MikeBandy 11-10-2007 06:09 AM

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software that could hack the RNG in ALL the popular poker sites

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It's my understanding that in the early days of online poker someone cracked the Planet Poker system. The popular online casinos of today have invested in systems that can't be hacked. Also, those systems have been audited by experts in the big accounting firms.

Skycube 11-10-2007 08:02 AM

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Hi all. Not familiar with this HACK, but completely agree with Rek. Further to that, I understand that RNG is a well protected hardware device. One good example of this is the Orion's RNG (For info - http://www.randomnumbergenerator.nl/).

MikeBandy 11-10-2007 09:51 AM

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Hi all. Not familiar with this HACK, but completely agree with Rek. Further to that, I understand that RNG is a well protected hardware device. One good example of this is the Orion's RNG ... .

[/ QUOTE ]Skycube, I studied random number generation on the web for a little less than an hour. I'm sure that I haven't attained your level of expertise, but it was interesting. Thanks.

Xanthro 11-10-2007 10:25 AM

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BUT they do a relly nice job convincing you with many FAQ's and whatnot.

They are into sales, their job is to be convincing. Here's a tip, just because someone selling something to you seems very convincing, and the literature provided seems to back up claims, doesn't mean there's any actual validity to the product.

No, the can't crack the RNG of all pokers or likely any poker site. (disclaimer is because there could be some silly little known site that nobody has heard of and it's RNG could be hacked, but even then I doubt it's by any readily available software)

Skycube 11-10-2007 11:48 AM

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Skycube, I studied random number generation on the web for a little less than an hour. I'm sure that I haven't attained your level of expertise, but it was interesting. Thanks.

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Don't get me wrong, guys.. I was merely trying to be informative. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

arsdraconis 11-14-2007 03:18 AM

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in response to posts by people who think it was a stupid question: I'm humbly sorry that i asked a "silly" question. Truth is this is a real concern among many people so take it easy allright? here's a link to a video that seems to really support the idea that these can work. I stated that i wouldn't use it or post anything showing people where it was, but the experts say there is nothing to it and i will trust that they know much more on this than me, it's posted here so maybe they will understand how plausible this looks to someone somewhat newer to all of this.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVFJtm7VTys

Rek 11-14-2007 09:14 AM

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1st post asking the question and 2nd post showing the thing you said you would not. Nice try - was it you or one of your co-spammers that posted it on youtube?

Tweed _Man 11-14-2007 08:34 PM

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OP - That is clearly an edited video, I mean how the **** is this thing supposed to work out the flop and a villains hole cards just by you entering your hole cards for the hand? I'm not sure if you've noticed but the flop doesnt come down the same every time you have KsKc for example.

Then factor in the fact that big sites use even your mouse cursor movements as part of the number-generating process and you should realise just how stupid this is.

At best - it's a scam to rip you off
At worst - it includes a trojan so the developers of the product can see YOUR hole cards.


By all means if you want to buy it and push your 72os preflop because the software says three dueces are going to flop then go ahead.

arsdraconis 11-14-2007 10:15 PM

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my account on youtybe is "pooblius" and i have never posted anything, anywhere, until now on this forum. the and if what you told me is true then what's the problem? IS IT REAL OR NOT???????????? is the video outdated and i can feel safe placing online bets or is this still a potential problem?

Quicksilvre 11-14-2007 11:51 PM

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my account on youtybe is "pooblius" and i have never posted anything, anywhere, until now on this forum. the and if what you told me is true then what's the problem? IS IT REAL OR NOT???????????? is the video outdated and i can feel safe placing online bets or is this still a potential problem?

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No, of course it's not real.

Let's have a sanity check here. If this is for real, the developer if this program could keep it to himself and make thousands or millions off of it, or he could sell it for some silly amount like $50 and have to bump into other users that can see HIS cards.

Given that, do you still this is for real?

arsdraconis 11-15-2007 12:24 AM

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given that the developers are probably millionairs from selling the product with online pokers popularity...it seem fathomable to me still. You make a great point and i can see what your'e saying, but i still wonder. i dunno if i'll ever be totally convinced. but... i am skeptical at least,

Lego05 11-15-2007 03:31 AM

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given that the developers are probably millionairs from selling the product with online pokers popularity...it seem fathomable to me still. You make a great point and i can see what your'e saying, but i still wonder. i dunno if i'll ever be totally convinced. but... i am skeptical at least,

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Buy it then. It'll cost you $50 or w/e but then you'll know it doesn't work so your fears will be put to reast for a measly 50 bucks.

Tweed _Man 11-15-2007 04:59 AM

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FFS - Have you bothered to read my post??

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OP - That is clearly an edited video, I mean how the **** is this thing supposed to work out the flop and a villains hole cards just by you entering your hole cards for the hand? I'm not sure if you've noticed but the flop doesnt come down the same every time you have KsKc for example.

Then factor in the fact that big sites use even your mouse cursor movements as part of the number-generating process and you should realise just how stupid this is.

At best - it's a scam to rip you off
At worst - it includes a trojan so the developers of the product can see YOUR hole cards.


By all means if you want to buy it and push your 72os preflop because the software says three dueces are going to flop then go ahead.

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Rek 11-15-2007 05:05 AM

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FFS - Have you bothered to read my post??

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OP - That is clearly an edited video, I mean how the **** is this thing supposed to work out the flop and a villains hole cards just by you entering your hole cards for the hand? I'm not sure if you've noticed but the flop doesnt come down the same every time you have KsKc for example.

Then factor in the fact that big sites use even your mouse cursor movements as part of the number-generating process and you should realise just how stupid this is.

At best - it's a scam to rip you off
At worst - it includes a trojan so the developers of the product can see YOUR hole cards.


By all means if you want to buy it and push your 72os preflop because the software says three dueces are going to flop then go ahead.

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Tweed, did you not read mine. He is part of the scam - soooo obvious for a 1st poster. No more responses would be best. BAN

arsdraconis 11-16-2007 09:56 AM

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i can prove i'm not part of any scam... isn't that slander?

arsdraconis 11-16-2007 09:57 AM

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and i never said i wanted to buy the product. i never would.

Rek 11-16-2007 11:54 AM

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i can prove i'm not part of any scam

[/ QUOTE ] Go on then

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isn't that slander?

[/ QUOTE ]Possibly

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and i never said i wanted to buy the product. i never would.

[/ QUOTE ] No you want others to buy it

Lego05 11-17-2007 06:40 AM

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isn't that slander?

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Possibly



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Nah it's not.



Slander is spoken. In print it's called libel.




I do doubt this qualifies though since the person being libeled is an anonymous screen name.

Voltaire 11-17-2007 02:22 PM

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1st post asking the question and 2nd post showing the thing you said you would not. Nice try - was it you or one of your co-spammers that posted it on youtube?

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Nice deduction, Rek.

MikeBandy 11-18-2007 06:21 AM

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1st post asking the question and 2nd post showing the thing you said you would not. Nice try - was it you or one of your co-spammers that posted it on youtube?

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Nice deduction, Rek.

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QFT

Arsdraconis registered on 11/10/07, and posted six messages -- all in this thread. It's surprising that he or she hasn't found any other subject of interest in 2+2.

PokerKhan 11-18-2007 10:03 AM

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At best - it's a scam to rip you off
At worst - it includes a trojan so the developers of the product can see YOUR hole cards.

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True and true.

These are scams. And many also invade your computer with trojans. Don't install. Don't even download.

raze 12-01-2007 07:01 PM

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If this crap really worked, the games would be ridden with users and would be completely and obviously unbeatable.


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