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100nl FH in limped pot
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
SB: $115.56 Hero (BB): $98.50 UTG: $101.47 CO: $43.55 BTN: $130.57 Reads: <font color="blue">No reads at the time - guy was 44/2/0.5 over 100 hands at the end of the session. What do you do after the river 3bet?</font> Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks Flop: ($3) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks Turn: ($3) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00, UTG folds River: ($7) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $36.00</font> |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Easy shove no?
I usually raise the turn in this spot though. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
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Easy shove no? I usually raise the turn in this spot though. [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Raise turn.. and shove river.
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Advice: Never go broke in an unraised pot because someone will always have 62 or some crap like that.
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
8 games 0.005 secs 1,600 games/sec Board: Ad 3s 6s 2c 6h Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 4 0.00 { 33-22, A6s, 63s, A6o } Hand 1: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 4 0.00 { 6c2s } Flip a coin. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
jamougha,
Villain is bad, if we throw a few random sixes in there I think this is a shove. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Jam,
I think you should include AA and 45 in that poker stove calculation. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
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I think you should include AA and 45 in that poker stove calculation. [/ QUOTE ] mmmm no wayyyy. He completed the SB, it's probably a 1000:1 that he has AA. And in my last, say 100K hands I can count the number of times I've seen someone 3-bet the river on a paired board without a boat on the fingers of one hand. [ QUOTE ] Villain is bad, if we throw a few random sixes in there I think this is a shove. [/ QUOTE ] As I say it's mucho unlikely. Also factor in hat he will just call with the underfull now and then. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
raising turn is meh
according to jam raising river is OEV and possibly just +variance? i guess given that i can just call the 3b. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Jam,
You never see k,6 3 bet here? |
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Jam, You never see k,6 3 bet here? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but it's vanishingly rare. Maybe it's more likely at 100NL, but the guy has to be an drooler and very aggressive. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Fistpump all-in.
Jamo, you missed 45 in the range. And 62 as well. |
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Fistpump all-in. Jamo, you missed 45 in the range. And 62 as well. [/ QUOTE ] we have 50% equity with another 62 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] the odds of 45 playing like this are just not enough to shove. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
You expect a 44/2 player to fold 45 just because the board is paired..?
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
I disagree. I totally see a 40%vpip playing 45 like this. Why would he not?
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
I'm not sure if you are replying to me or Caterp, but that was my point, it's teh nuts to him, even with a paired board.
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
It says Re: CAterp.
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
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raising turn is meh [/ QUOTE ] What's wrong with a turn raise? I like a turn raise to extract a bit from the guy who checked his A on the flop. As played, I just call river. |
Re: El Diablo
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I disagree. I totally see a 40%vpip playing 45 like this. Why would he not? [/ QUOTE ] Because, in practise, they don't. River 3-bets are enormously strong. edit: especially with 0.5 AF |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
easy turn raise, river is close but his low aggr factor makes me leaning towards calling. I think pushing and calling are close in EV and calling is holding down the variance a bit.
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Re: El Diablo
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[ QUOTE ] I disagree. I totally see a 40%vpip playing 45 like this. Why would he not? [/ QUOTE ] Because, in practise, they don't. River 3-bets are enormously strong. [/ QUOTE ] A straight is pretty strong. |
Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
I raise the turn. Shove river, it should be pretty obvious looking at jamo's stove.
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Re: 100nl FH in limped pot
Im just calling this river 3bet.
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Re: El Diablo
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[ QUOTE ] I disagree. I totally see a 40%vpip playing 45 like this. Why would he not? [/ QUOTE ] Because, in practise, they don't. River 3-bets are enormously strong. edit: especially with 0.5 AF [/ QUOTE ] In this case where it's limped preflop, checked around on the flop and a small bet gets called on the turn it isn't THAT strong. I've seen players like this going broke on the river with trips with a decent kicker often. Unless we suspect him to call our raise with 33/22 a substantial ammount a river push is really easy. The fact that your stove only includs 4 combos that beats us means that a small chances he plays the 16 combos of 54 or bazillion combos of 6x makes a huge impact on our decision. |
Re: El Diablo
I'm going broke on this river for sure vs a 44/2. Such a player can easily stack off with random trips or a straight here. Raise the turn also.
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