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Barrin6 11-21-2007 07:20 AM

Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
I'm 2.2k under expectancy

And this is over 1800 hands at nl 400 hu.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3...linlucksw6.jpg

Getting your money in ahead doesn't matter, it's about getting in your money without getting sucked out.

tommyhawkers 11-21-2007 07:27 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
variantz r one thong

thorleif 11-21-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
post hands 55, 1825 plz

CmnDwnWrkn 11-21-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
I didn't realize it was possible to run this poorly over the long run. 1800 hands is the long run, right?

Barrin6 11-21-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
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post hands 55, 1825 plz

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i dont know how to find hand 55, but hand 1825 is my AK vs AJ all in pf and I lose.


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I didn't realize it was possible to run this poorly over the long run. 1800 hands is the long run, right?

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Yes it is hu.

grando 11-21-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
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post hand 427, 1551 plz

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Barrin6 11-21-2007 04:14 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
Ok here are the big hands

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $1,349.20
BB: $719

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, BB calls $32

Turn: ($104) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $55</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $180</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $667 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $487

River: ($1,438) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,438 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $1,437.50 (+$718.50 NET)
BB showed K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Eights) and LOST (-$719 NET)


Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $610.50
BB: $850.10

Pre-Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($24) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

River: ($72) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $72</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $574.50 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $502.50

Results: $1,221 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a straight, Seven high) and WON $1,220.50 (+$610 NET)
BB mucked Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces) and LOST (-$610.50 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $683
Hero (BB): $605.50

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $88</font>, SB calls $64

Turn: ($212) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $200</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $577 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $299.50 and is All-In

River: ($1,211) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,211 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and WON $1,210.50 (+$605 NET)
Hero showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$605.50 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $721
BB: $534

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $36</font>, Hero calls $24

Flop: ($72) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $72</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $685 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $426 and is All-In

Turn: ($1,068) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($1,068) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,068 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$534 NET)
BB showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Queens) and WON $1,067.50 (+$533.50 NET)

towery 11-21-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
yeah from the hands you posted, you clearly run worse than any player on the planet

Jim14Qc 11-21-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
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yeah from the hands you posted, you clearly run worse than any player on the planet

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leveled.

I think.

grando 11-21-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
wtf hand 2

Barrin6 11-21-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
Yea i'm below expectancy because I always put money in behind and never suck out

gieroy 11-21-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI *DELETED*
 
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ImsaKidd 11-21-2007 06:28 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6...rislandmd8.png

ImsaKidd 11-21-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
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Therefore the red line is the expected "showdown winnings" not the expected total winnings.

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Did you read the [censored] definiton of the red line at the bottom? "EXPECTED TOTAL WINNINGS"

You won't be going to Baller Island either.

gieroy 11-21-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI *DELETED*
 
Post deleted by gieroy

Barrin6 11-21-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
wtf are you talking about. all it is is the allin luck incorparated into the graph.

gieroy 11-21-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
my bad, I suck, sorz;

crap deleted from above, variance is a bitch indeed

Grandezza 11-22-2007 06:44 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
you realize you ran at about 4ptbb/100 right? maybe you should stop whining.

kemystery 11-22-2007 07:20 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
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http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6...rislandmd8.png

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rofl CHOO CHOOwned

DesperadoGM 11-22-2007 08:47 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
wow, it seems u really don't understand this graph at all.

it doesn't indicate u are running 2.2k below expectation at all. it shows that if u didn't spew money in other areas then u cud have made 2.2k more..... expected total winnings vs total winnings doesn't look at outdraws, think about it.outdraws would be more to do with sklansky vs total expected grpahs.
what the graph more likely shows is that u are putting in too much money and then folding in non showdown pots-- maybe this is coz u are missing draws a lot (which could factor into running bad) but more likely its coz u are being outplayed whilst also not double barreling/check-raising etc with the best frequency.
you should have included the sklansky line also rly.
gl

pofigistka 11-22-2007 09:15 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
Well Done Ged! You play much atm?

SuperSnort 11-22-2007 09:28 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
there should be crocodiles and sharks in the water between baller island and barrin imo

xorbie 11-22-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
You might want to consider playing a lot better.

AcTiOnJaCsOn 11-22-2007 11:03 AM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
unworthy sample size for bbv imo

forshure 11-22-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
The attempt at humor in this thread by op is about as well played as the hands he posted.

xwowsersx 11-22-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
Uh. 1800 hands isnt [censored] heads up. And running that much under expectation really isnt that much of a biatch at all. Easy to run like that over 1800 hands even in 6 max @ NL400. Am I wrong here guys?

ImsaKidd 11-22-2007 02:21 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
I cant stand pokerev threads anymore.

Can you guys make your posts in a different color or font if youre levelling? That way I know whos trying to be funny and whos retarded.

shamasotoole 11-22-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
you don't really seem to be that good

Barrin6 11-22-2007 04:01 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
yea well f u guys. I already quit HU. I'm back to 6 max now

cakewalk 11-22-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
she get it from her momma

QuimKnight 11-22-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Hu variance is a bitch FYI
 
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http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6...rislandmd8.png

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so awesome


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