WTF do I just fold? 250bb
 

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I raise in MP with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to 70, get one caller

FLOP: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I overpot, he calls

TURN: blank I pot he calls

River: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet 3/4 pot, Villain shoves. GAY do i fold? Note: im hanmmered

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yes

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do i fold?

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Without any more info this hand really plays itself.

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Without any more info this hand really plays itself.

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I have a 40 vpip. Does that change anything?

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fold

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any read on villan? is he a regular?

i think this is close either way.

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i like to c/r this river and fold to push or just call if he bets al000t.

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i like to c/r this river and fold to push or just call if he bets al000t.

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This is pure spewage

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I like the way the hand was played assuming you folded to the push.

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Wow this is such a sucky hand for you.

You have to fold the river.

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Someone tell me why this is such an easy fold. Most ppl won't slowplay a set on such a drawy board with the pfr showing so much strength. You are putting him squarely on J10? I would think he'd raise the flop or turn with that hand as well especially with stacks being deep.

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it's BECAUSE the stacks are so deep calling down with a set is better than shoving

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it's BECAUSE the stacks are so deep calling down with a set is better than shoving

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wtf

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I think this is a fold. However, if that is tough for you to do then I suggest check/calling the river; which would probably be the best option regardless...

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If this is on Full Tilt, check-fold river.

If this is anywhere else, bet-fold or check-call river.

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i really dont mind a c/c river, esp if u are planning on bet/folding

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check call river for sure. that's the perfect card for you to check/call river against his entire hand range.

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ARGH! Card, could we please some exact stack sizes? k thx.

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check call river for sure. that's the perfect card for you to check/call river against his entire hand range.

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ARGH! Card, could we please some exact stack sizes? k thx.

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Ah, now I'm awake from my drunkeness. It was 10/20 and I think I had something like $4,200 and the villain covered. I actually can't even remember who the villain was. But anyway I was raising a ton and played super aggro cuz I was wasted.

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Is there a max you guys check call? what if you check and he shoves river what do you guys do?

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Is there a max you guys check call? what if you check and he shoves river what do you guys do?

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disconnect my cable modem obviously

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i call. his most likely holding is Jx, based on his line and your image.

how would he not raise set or 2 pair on such a drawy flop?

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I call. Do you really think villain is slowplaying a set or 2pr here very often? Ofcourse it's possible, but I think the true frequency is being over-estimated, and I think the probability of villain pushing a busted draw is under-estimated.

From villian's POV, much of hero's range is very prone to laying down to a river push. (Due to stacksizes)

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Would anybody check raise here for value? I mean he is going to bet any jack, which is most likely holding, and he knows I'm playing pretty maniacal, so he could easily look me up with AJ/KJ. Right?

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I check/call this river to induce a bluff from busted draws and control the size of the pot.

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I was wasted

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I think this is the key factor. How drunk are you? If you're really drunk to the point that you're obviously making bad plays or pissing off the other players, then there's a great chance that this is just a jack. He's calling down because he thinks you're a maniac and then decides to raise trips for value on the river. Calling's fine there.

HOWEVER, if you're sober enough to seriously consider folding this, then you're probably behind. I don't think villian's shoveling just trips there and expecting to get called by a worse hand unless you're obviously drunk or tilted.

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I called, he had AJ

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I called, he had AJ

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That's what he get for messing with the Shark.

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Damn right