Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

The villian is 54vpip and 13pfr with an overall aggression factor of 0.51

Should I pick a better spot?
Or do I stack off here for 200BB?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

itWASaDREAM ($27.05)
SB ($7.65)
BB ($1.40)
UTG ($18.60)
MP ($13.10)
CO ($14.25)

Preflop: itWASaDREAM is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">itWASaDREAM raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.85.

Flop: ($2.55) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">itWASaDREAM bets $1.8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $7.95</font>, itWASaDREAM folds.

Final Pot: $12.30

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

you should never ever fold here and the fact that it appears you did makes me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

Hmm he played it like a set, but I think 66-99 and JJ-KK are a decent portion of his range too. Maybe call his flop raise and re-evaluate on the turn?

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

Push...JJ-KK mostly IMO.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

bet more on the flop, looks like you got to give him credit with an AF of 0.51, and we're a bit deep wich is uglier, I'd wait for a better spot, there will be plenty against this guy.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

The aggression factor of 0.51 worries me, but folding here seems really nitty and exploitable.

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I think this is among the best spots you are ever going to find in poker. I think you are behind maybe 5%, a T or JJ-KK is just so much more likely after this action.

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lol I guess I'm pretty rusty, however I like more than one pair to get 180bb in

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

Shove. Guys with big VPIP's always have lower PFAs, even if they are aggressive.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

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lol I guess I'm pretty rusty, however I like more than one pair to get 180bb in

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I dont see how my hand can be good here. This person is NEVER RAISING. I understand that JJ-kk, are a good part of his range. But is he ever going to smooth call oop with QQ/KK?

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Hmm he played it like a set, but I think 66-99

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lol I guess I'm pretty rusty, however I like more than one pair to get 180bb in

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I dont see how my hand can be good here. This person is NEVER RAISING. I understand that JJ-kk, are a good part of his range. But is he ever going to smooth call oop with QQ/KK?

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You don't understand how to interprit PFA.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

I think your line is solid and shows discipline. Key thing here is how many hands stored for villan, &lt;100 then do you feel like gambling? Otherwise dont waste time questioning solid folds hes so passive and the fact that hes this deep at this limit suggests hes no donkey.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

As last poster said you need a nice bit more than 100 hands to be sure of the aggression but because he sees so many flops youll have a much better idea of hes aggression after 100 hands than you would of a 25%v$PIP player.

Anyway i think your correct in not being in a hurry to stack off here against a very passive player, that dosent mean he dosent think KK is the nuts here but if your always getting all in here against a very passive player it cant be +EV.

You have position so id just call and see what he does on the turn he could have FD or AT and i wouldnt expect a passive player to come out hammering at the turn aswell with either of those holdings so this will narrow his range a bit.

Also KK-QQ is very likely to be 3bet by this fellow OOP with stacks this deep and especially KK and i dont think hell feel so confident betting that turn hard with QQ-JJ after been 3bet preflop so you should be able to keep the pot under control and if he checks that turn then id be happy to fire a value bet on the river expecting a call from QQ-JJ or AT

Also bear in mind Post Flop Aggression is Bet+Raise / Call so a calling station would dilute his agression factor somewhat even if he raises a bit but thats a sick low aggression factor so i think you have to respect hes raise here if youve 100+ hands on him

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

3bet him and get ready to put it allin he has JJ+ here all the time!

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

Arrrr-in. I don't think a 54/13 donk would raise 22 or 55 UTG to 3.5BB, I'd be surprised if he showed up with bottom/middle set. I think he has TT+ here most of the time.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

Its a good policy to check 3bet flops 200deep since you only want to call two streets of action.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

I think that folding here is fine. The only way a push would seem logical is if villain has been playing stupid. Without such information, this looks like a fold. Villain could have a set or maybe a FD. With deeps stacks, I wouldn't risk the gamble.

If villain is in fact stupid, you'll find another chance to stack him.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

With his AF I fold this. I think he hit a set and is building a pot, protecting from the flush board. I can`t see him betting JJ-QQ here like this. And he doesn`t has AK of spades, since you have the As.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

you're behind to exactly one hand (TT) as this opp is never raising 22/55 utg. if he's got TT its just variance. 90% of the time you win.

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you're behind to exactly one hand (TT) as this opp is never raising 22/55 utg. if he's got TT its just variance. 90% of the time you win.

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This guy is good.

Don't fold this ffs.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

God, I am such a station [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

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you're behind to exactly one hand (TT) as this opp is never raising 22/55 utg. if he's got TT its just variance. 90% of the time you win.

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Your probably right, but I`m curious, why do you think that villain is not raising 22 or 55 UTG ? Due to his stats ?

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

Board: 2c 5s Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 69.610% 68.20% 01.41% 24981 517.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 30.390% 28.98% 01.41% 10615 517.00 { TT+, 55, 22, ATs, KsQs, KsJs, QsJs, ATo }


You're way ahead of his range, don't ever fold this.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

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you're behind to exactly one hand (TT) as this opp is never raising 22/55 utg. if he's got TT its just variance. 90% of the time you win.

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He's 13% PFR and doesn't seem like he's positionally aware...I think he can definitely show up with 22/55 here.

Re: Fold AA to a checkraise?
 

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