WVU @ USF
 

any thoughts/leans/ideas about the friday showdown between WVU @ USF? i know a couple of guys on here think USF is POTW-worthy, does anyone know if dr bob has come on board? for what it's worth, sagarin says WVU -6, accuscore says -6.6. current line i'm seeing is WVU -7 -105.

my personal lean is USF. they're playing in front of their first sellout crowd at RJS and i think it's worth more than the 2.9 points sagarin is offering them. that said, WVU is notoriously great at covering on the road, so i guess i'll wait and see what you guys think. cheers!

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u56, usf +7

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correction to my above post: accuscore (which not a lot of people respect but i'm sticking it on here anyhow) is predicting WVU by 4, not the 6.6 from the above post. cheers!

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WVU -6.5!!!!!!!!!

ONE TIME BABY ONE TIME

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USF was dr bob SO, but not BB.

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I was on tilt and put 2 units on Wvu -7.5 @ -105 on Sia,
yes, I know it was a very square and donkish bet.
Playing poker on Sia's software tends to do that to me. heh.

I'm hoping the revenge factor, and Rodriguez having no conscience about running up the score will play into it.
oh well. I needed action for friday night anyways.

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am i the only one liking the over here???

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I'm on u57 @ Bodog

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USF +7 (1u)
USF +230 ML (1u)

I like South Florida due to probably of Forced Turnovers.

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USF was dr bob SO, but not BB.

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What does this mean?

As an aside: Someone wanna write a tout primer so I can understand some of their lingo?

Though I did actually read the Ace-Ace threads.

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Strong Opinion
Best Bet

Meaning that he likeys USF here...but he doesn't super-duper likey USF.

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Strong Opinion
Best Bet

Meaning that he likeys USF here...but he doesn't super-duper likey USF.

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Christ. I'll keep this in mind if I ever go tout. I'll make random plays. Label them with annoying acronyms and then hope I run hot.

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USF +7 -105

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am i the only one liking the over here???

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I really like the over. If USF beats the spread, and that seems to be the popular pick here, it'll have to go over. I can't see USF stopping the running game.

Another side note, kinda surprised its gone to 7.5. I would have that Dr. Bob's SO would have pushed it the other way.

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am i the only one liking the over here???

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I really like the over. If USF beats the spread, and that seems to be the popular pick here, it'll have to go over. I can't see USF stopping the running game.

Another side note, kinda surprised its gone to 7.5. I would have that Dr. Bob's SO would have pushed it the other way.

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iirc didn't usf hold slaten/white to like 30 yards each last time they played or in 05

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I think the books move the lines on air for his best bets anticipating a bunch of action about to come in but wait for the action to actually come before doing anything with the opinions. Dr. Bob's been running cold enough recently that people probably aren't looking to add on the plays of his that don't even make the best bet category.

Also, with out a Dr. Bob presence, it was kind of a lock that the squares would start betting WVU up on gameday. Everyone I've talked to that knows a little bit about college football but nothing about sports betting thinks the line is too low.

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I don't think it's random tout talk. As a former Bob subscriber I'm going to be a little fuzzy on the details, but here's the difference:

Strong opinion: 54%-56% chance of covering in his opinion. So, profitable but he technically doesn't play it.

Best Bet: 56%+ of covering. He supposedly plays these with his own money.

In short, the labels have a mathematical base. I learned a lot about handicapping from Bob when I used him. The information alone is very good. If you have the time to handicap properly there isn't much need for his service, but most people I don't think could do it properly if they wanted to. Just my two cents.

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I put just about two units on WVU to cover at -7. I love Ray Jay Stadium though and wish I were there for this one. If I was going I'd probably be betting on USF, lol.

Record
NFL 1-1 (+.3)
NCAA 1-1 (-.4)

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My donk parlay of the day is taking the ML on USF and the over.
Go USF!!!!

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am i the only one liking the over here???

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I took o55.5

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I'm feeling lonely on the under now.

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bulls for 2 units

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I'd definitely lean under if I was betting the total. USF tends to keep scores down as much as WVU props them up, and it's a nationally televised game where the squares will love betting the over on the 'Eers high-powered offense.

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USF -7 -101. That past like 10 plays ive posted on 2+2 have lost...

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So you're due right? Gambler's fallacy FTW!

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If USF beats the spread, and that seems to be the popular pick here, it'll have to go over. I can't see USF stopping the running game.


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I disagree. I think they can stop the running game and that is their best chance to win - to keep it low-scoring. I'm afraid WVU will hit them with big plays though.

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So you're due right? Gambler's fallacy FTW!

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Nah, I was just saying that dont put any weight into my pick.

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Damn rush getting numbers like USF -7 -101 I can understand losing horribly. Damn that has to be worth like +550 or so.

Now +7 -101 isn't too bad at all. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Haha, yea my bad.

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Wow, W. Virginia's offense is doing nothing. OH GREAT, NICE PICK.

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this looks like a soccer game.. fumble, fumble, fumble, interception, fumble. lol

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Well I took WV@-7 and took the under, so far, looks like I'm splitting this. Still alot of football left.

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The NCAA knows they make TV's bigger than 10" right? Maybe it would be a good idea to use bigger TV's and HD for replay? Just a thought.

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Predictions for halftime line? WVU -3?

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bodog has wvu -6.5 for the half.

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WVU/USF 2H u26 +110

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WVU/USF under 28 2nd Half 2 Units

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2nd Half:
Under 28

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USF +6 2nd Half 1 Unit

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I don't claim to know a lot about the over/under on 2nd halves but I don't really like the under 28 here for some reason.

I have 2.5units on USF +7 in this game though, so I'm just gonna let that ride out and hope they don't pull a Memphis.