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Hi Everyone:

First off, our book Tournament Poker for Advanced Players by David Sklansky is now sold out and will not be reprinted in its current form and is no longer available from this website.

However, we do plan on bringing out an expanded edition with at least 100 pages of new material. So expect to see Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Expanded Edition by David Sklansky on approximately December 1. (For those of you who do want to purchase the original edition, there should still be a few copies left at some of the stores and Amazon.)

Here is our tentative publishing schedule for our upcoming books.

Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Expanded Edition -- Dec. 1, 2007

Harrington on Cash Games: Volume I -- Feb. 1, 2008

Harrington on Cash Games: Volume II -- Feb. 1, 2008

(Both these books are planeed to be released at the same time.)

Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume II -- March 15, 2008

Finally, for our foreign language readers, make sure to look at our Book Translations Page to see the latest and most up to date status of our books in languages other than English. This page will be updated regularly.

Here's a cover picture of our most recent book to be translated.

http://twoplustwo.com/translations/images/gm_NLH.jpg

It's the German version of David's book, No-Limit Hold 'em: Theory and Practice.

Best wishes,
Mason

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So Ed Miller is not credited in the German version? Does that mean he did not contribute to the concepts in this book?

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His name is on the cover.

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I love the cover design! Very consumer friendly, yet says "authoritative" at the same time. Well done!

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http://www.twoplustwo.com/translations/

this link (upper left sidebar) shows more

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its disappointing that PNLH vol 2 will be released in March......

im sure it will be well worth the wait though.

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Does that mean he did not contribute to the concepts in this book?

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There were only a few concepts that came from Miller. They concern only smaller games. David tells me that he took Miller's word for it that they are accurate. Miller's main contribution was his writing skill where he would take David's ideas and explain them well.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Maybe Zee and Fromm should have worked with Miller too. Yet since Fromm had to write and give a speech for his Stanford doctorate, and appears on the DVD to be able to convey strategy well, I wonder how they couldn't have done as well as Stox/Zobags whose book was likely equally complex.

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"planeed" eheh

I am disappointed mason that there is a "Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Expanded Edition"
with over an hundred pages coming forth instead of a true sequal.
I have the tourament poker last edition before this one and don't know why I would, or should invest in this one as harrington on hold them volume 1 and 2 was tourment based,
and I have the full tilt poker tourament edition, and even the tourment formula by arnold snyder.

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I forgot to mention I also have kill phil, and was laying down thinking of my post and it occured to me that I wouldn't mind seeing a tourament true sequel that addressed what david thought about the tourment formula (why not arnold has a sequal listed on amazon and I am thinking that perhaps he will address some of the criticisms of his first book in the sequal), kill phil applications of his system he devised in the orginal tourament poker for advanced players book. perhaps a true sequal could be called tourment poker, theory and pratice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

couldn't the tourament poker for advanced players be pushed back a year and have david write an additional 150 to 200 pages. and release it as a seperate book.. tourament poker for advanced players the next generation, or the sequal, or simply volume two?.

what is next , hold them for advanced players, the expanded edition? and then the 7 card stud book for advanced players the expanded edition ?(I hope not for I just ordered the stud poker book advanced players as well as professional no limit volume one and the sit and go book)

It seems that is fewer books then I would like to see, couldn't one on omaha, (pot limit omaha for advanced players ) be fitte in somewhere?

I am pleased that the harington cash games books are pushed back to feb, as I wouldn't of been able to get a copy up here in canada if you had made the december 15 publishing date.

I am curious if you are going to ask dan to read pro volume 1 book, and possibly wait til the second book to come out and ask him to read that too to further flesh out his ideas. It just seems more logical to me to have the books although written seperately of course to be able to reference each other for specific concept example.
do you know if dan has read the no limit theory and pratice book so he support or refute the concepts in his cash game books?.

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Tournament Poker for Advanced Players: Expanded Edition -- Dec. 1, 2007

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Any hint as to what the new pages are about? In other words, if I own the book already, please give me a reason why I should buy the expanded edition.

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Harrington on Cash Games: Volume I -- Feb. 1, 2008

Harrington on Cash Games: Volume II -- Feb. 1, 2008

(Both these books are planeed to be released at the same time.)

Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume II -- March 15, 2008



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Wow! Next spring ought to be fun around here. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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what is next , hold them for advanced players, the expanded edition? and then the 7 card stud book for advanced players the expanded edition ?(

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Those books were expanded in 1999 when the 21st Century editions were released.

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do you know if dan has read the no limit theory and pratice book so he support or refute the concepts in his cash game books?.

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Boith Dan and Bill Robertie are readers and they have each read No-Limit Hold 'em: Yheory and Practice. In fact, Dan has been quite positive towards this book.

As for what Dan and Bill will write, we at Two Plus Two do not give them any direction. We do however go over and review what's written in a very thorough manner, as we do with all books we publish. I will however probably see both Dan and Bill in mid-September, so I will know more then.

Best wishes,
Mason
Best wishes,
Mason

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I love the cover design! Very consumer friendly, yet says "authoritative" at the same time

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http://www.sthbodyjewelry.com/catalo...80106-0115.jpg

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Thats horrible everybody in germany should at least know some basic english to read books

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Thats horrible everybody in germany should at least know some basic english to read books

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It's because a lot of people are lazy, they can read English, but they have an easier time reading a book in their own language.

On topic: I agree with Masterholmes that a pot limit omaha book from two plus two publishing would be nice. Other books on this subject are more of the cookbook type, 2+2 could publish something on the underlying theory of Omaha games.

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Tournament Poker revision A+, definitely needs to be brought back to life. A PLO book is overdue, it's the only thing really missing from the 2+2 catalog at this point.

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Bring on the Harrington...can't wait!

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Harrington on Cash Games: Volume I -- Feb. 1, 2008

Harrington on Cash Games: Volume II -- Feb. 1, 2008

(Both these books are planeed to be released at the same time.)

Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume II -- March 15, 2008


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Mason, you've ruined my Christmas.

But you've made my President's Day. AND my St. Patrick's Day!

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Mason - Any plans to do a Cover design contest again, for these upcoming books?

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I believe some of them have already been chosen from the last contest.

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Can't wait for Harrington on Cash!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Can't wait for Harrington on Cash!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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QFT!

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Does that mean he did not contribute to the concepts in this book?

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There were only a few concepts that came from Miller. They concern only smaller games. David tells me that he took Miller's word for it that they are accurate. Miller's main contribution was his writing skill where he would take David's ideas and explain them well.


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How does the bolded part reconcile with the following:

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We do however go over and review what's written in a very thorough manner, as we do with all books we publish.

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I know there is some stuff in that book which is specific to some of the small no-limit games around town. I believe that's what David is referring to.

When we go over a book, we make sure that it flows in a consistent logical fashion and doesn't seemingly contradict itself without adequate explanations, and that the advice makes sense given the premisies it is based on, and so on. That's different from knowing whether certain basic facts describing game conditions are accurate.

MM

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Mason,

"Miller's main contribution was his writing skill where he would take David's ideas and explain them well."

Based on my discussions with Ed during the writing of the book, I think that significantly underrepresents his level of contribution to the book. I'm specifically referring to making some changes to examples/concepts in the book that had validity of a theoretical nature but really weren't accurate in terms of actually playing in real games.

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Mason,

Please reconcile with Ed Miller. Or air your issues w/ him and his wife in NVG.

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I believe some of [the covers] have already been chosen for the last contest.

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3 covers were reserved by Mason during the last contest, but as I understood it they could just as well go unused.

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I don't think that what Mason said underrepresents Ed's contribution. It might misrepresent it, but it doesn't do any good to have an idea if it you can't explain it well. So even if that was all Ed contributed--and I too, based on discussion with Ed and others, don't think that's accurate--it is a major contribution. I have the highest respect for David, but he is a poor writer.

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In my opinion I think this thread turned on its side unintentionally. I just looked at the book cover at the foreign publisher's website, its hard to tell from the image here but Ed is given equal billing as a writer on the cover. Sklansky is marketable, David's association helps to sell books so it makes sense to promote his ideas (I know Ed would agree that this book was David's ideas communicated by Ed for the most part) by including a large photo of him. I think thats fair, their contributions are represented equally in my eyes once it gets down to the credits which is what really counts.

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Does anything really count?

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Does anything really count?

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Book sales do. So if I am Ed Miller, which I'm not, but wish I was, monetarily wise, and putting Sklansky's mug on the cover increases sales in Germany . . . . PUT DAVID'S MUG ON THE COVER!!!!! Besides I can't help but see a choir boy version of Jamie Gold in Ed Miller's stock photo, am I the only one that sees this resemblance?

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You've discovered the truth. "Ed Miller" is Jamie Gold's nome de plume.

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Good and evil, separated at birth?

The checks cash the same. Perhaps you guys could look up "ghostwriter"? Many of them get paid very well. Do you really think Charles Barkley misquoted himself in his autobiography?

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Good and evil, separated at birth?

The checks cash the same. Perhaps you guys could look up "ghostwriter"? Many of them get paid very well. Do you really think Charles Barkley misquoted himself in his autobiography?

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My friend was the ghostwriter for I Am Jackie Chan, a NY Times best seller. I can assure you he didn't make as much as David or Ed will (already did?) with their book. 2+2's royalties are possibly the best in the business, Mason gives away the house - you gotta love a guy who looks out for the author.

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My friend was the ghostwriter for I Am Jackie Chan, a NY Times best seller.

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Disconcerting on soooo many levels.

If Mason is giving away houses, I don't need one, but a newer car wouldn't hurt. Would that put me in the ghostwriter category?

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Mason said that Miller's main contribution was his writing skill. I don't believe that is accurate, based on conversations I had with Ed and others. But even if it is, it's a very important contribution because David writes poorly. It's no accident that the book that's been around the longest and is justly regarded as a classic is TOP: David partnered there with a professional writer.

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2 Books of Harrington ! Damm ! Thats a [censored] good news!

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Harrington on Cash Games: Volume I -- Feb. 1, 2008

Harrington on Cash Games: Volume II -- Feb. 1, 2008

(Both these books are planeed to be released at the same time.)

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Hi Mason,

First of all, I - like many others - am excited about the release of the new Harrington volumes.

I am curious as to why they are going to be released simultaneously. Having no education in the area of marketing, my instinct would be to release books such as these a few months apart, so as not to compete with each other. Just wondering the reasoning behind the double launch.

Best,
Rob

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Hi Duck:

Both books will be delivered to Two Plus Two at the same time and because of expected demand for both titles we don't want to hold anything up. You may be correct that it would be better marketing to space the books out, but neither I nor the authors want to do that.

By the way, I just met with Dan and Bill a couple of days ago in California and they feel that Harrington on Cash Games will be the best books they have written.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Interesting to me that you don't want to "hold anything up" with the Harrington books yet you apparently mandated to Fromm and Zee to have Al Schoonmaker act in some type of editting capacity sure slowed that wonderful work down.

Al is virtually incompetent when it comes to poker strategy which he admits in his 2+2 bio. The writing in own books is pathetic. He absolutely has no business trying to contribute anything to 6 max book.

"I'm not a poker expert. I'm a psychologist who plays for moderate stakes and writes about poker psychology. I rarely give advice about playing specific cards because many people can do it better."

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looking forward to Harrington's and Robertie's books but I cant help wonder how this is going to affect the writing and content of PNHL vol 2. I would have thought that a release of the second volume of PNLE would have been the better option.
I just hope that the authors of the excellent PNLH vol 1, continue where they left off with Vol 2, and not let Harrington's books influence what is included and excluded from vol 2.