Can a Christian play poker?
 

I'm sure there's great comedy potential in hijacking this thread: http://www.hopenet.net.ph/forum/view...296fb6e84cc8aa

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i hope not. seems like some interesting discussion going on.

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did you research this just for comedy

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And if that game takes too much of your time, too much that it robs your time from important activites such as prayer... I think it is unhealthy already.

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Are they nuts? If anything, poker makes us all pray even more! Heck, it even makes atheists pray ALL THE TIME.

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That Christian is no different to a Christian who goes clubbing, believing he can protect himself from ending up in a clubber's bedroom.

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W. T. F.

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*shudder*
I'm reading further down this thread and cults just simply creep me out.

Then with their crazy rituals and capitalized pronouns!

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Not really because he is putting himself into a test, believing that he has the strength to fight the temptation and not fall into it. This is dangerous, as we don't have the strength to fight the evil one. Only God has such strength, and we should not rely on our strength, but only on His strength for our part in the spiritual fight against the evil one. And we must rely on God's protection from temptation.

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Hello 2 day, i have been in great trouble, i happened to have fallen into a temtation that had haunted me a lot. (I HAD SEX). when I repented, I was let lose, and i thank God 4 that, but i'd really want to ask if i am still a virgin. please, help me.


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I wonder if someone should tell him that according to the bible, he is now married to the person he just had coitus with.

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That Christian is no different to a Christian who goes clubbing, believing he can protect himself from ending up in a clubber's bedroom.

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W. T. F.

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I heard a friend of mine tells what is the meaning of DISCO...he said DI Satan COrporation...I knew some christians going to disco...is it alright for them to go to disco while their serving the lord...I mean...disco is not right for christians? tnx again for ur reply on this..

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Hello 2 day, i have been in great trouble, i happened to have fallen into a temtation that had haunted me a lot. (I HAD SEX). when I repented, I was let lose, and i thank God 4 that, but i'd really want to ask if i am still a virgin. please, help me.


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I wonder if someone should tell him that according to the bible, he is now married to the person he just had coitus with.

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Do I smell a gimmick account on its way?

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its just a sin to play badly

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.. if one Christian is resiliant to "Gambling Addiction," would it be ok for that person to play Poker?...

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Not really because he is putting himself into a test, believing that he has the strength to fight the temptation and not fall into it. This is dangerous, as we don't have the strength to fight the evil one. Only God has such strength, and we should not rely on our strength, but only on His strength for our part in the spiritual fight against the evil one. And we must rely on God's protection from temptation.

That Christian is no different to a Christian who goes clubbing, believing he can protect himself from ending up in a clubber's bedroom.

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LOL apparantly christians don't have any self control

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Not to wreck the thread with a serious reply, but...

I sure hope we can. Yes I want to compete against the other guys and take their money, is this any different than regular 9-5 employment? If I don't take the money from the fishies, some other guy certainly will. At least I'm not going to spend the dough on anything really evil. I see where you could make the argument that poker is somewhat sinful, but if it is I believe I will be forgiven. If that's the kind of thing that's going to keep me out of heaven, I think many of us are really screwed.

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Of course, just like how Christians can get drunk and have sex and love Jesus at the same time.

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I'm a Christian and I play. I think one (in general) just needs to be very careful because its walking a fine line.

To explain further, the line here isn't the whole "gambling is a sin" thing, or addiction, but rather valuing and loving something over/more than God.

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For me, I think playing cards for fun is not a sin

but...

gambling is. yes. gambling.

You can play pequa, gin rummy, bridge, solitaire, freecell, pyramid, poker, pusoy dos, texas holdem

as long as you are not gambling.

no money is involved or anything in stake is involved.

Why?

It creates in you coveteousness. You are now craving the property or goods of the person you are playing against.

It no longer is a friendly game.

And if that game takes too much of your time, too much that it robs your time from important activites such as prayer or even sleeping and eating, I think it is unhealthy already.


And you would ask yourself, Would I be glorifying God with such actions? Isipin mo pre.

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lmao

fwiw, I'm Catholic

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ONE DAY YOU'LL LOSE MORE THAN YOU EVER IMAGINED AND YOU'LL HAVE NOTHING LEFT.

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Playing Poker requires something at stake. It can start with a simple, easily replaced item like a pencil. As the Poker player playes more and more games, they may decide to place bigger items at stake, like expensive things or money. Some may not be able to handle themselves as easily when it comes to gambling. An addiction, I guess.

So... if one Christian is resiliant to "Gambling Addiction," would it be ok for that person to play Poker? If another Christian is easily succumbed to "Gambling Addiction," is it ok for this person to play?

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Are they nuts? If anything, poker makes us all pray even more! Heck, it even makes atheists pray ALL THE TIME.

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Sigh. So true.

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Wow this people are jokes eventhough im a pretty strong christian myself.

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Same poster as the OP:

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Is it okay for a christian to wear a girl's dress in a fashion show....Temporary using them(those clothes of girls)...Im a boy, a real boy, and I waas just wanna aask if it is alright to wear them(those clothes of girls) in a few minutes..lets say 5 minutes?....I want to join a model show...Where boys partnered with girls...but there is a part where boys will wear mini skirts..waaaaa....Im not sure though if it is alright to wear them...

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hmmmmmm

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ROFL ADA

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I see where you could make the argument that poker is somewhat sinful

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I don't. Every time gambling is discussed from a Christian perspective, I see people bringing out extra-Biblical arguments. They have to, because gambling is barely mentioned in the Bible, and it's not condemned when it is mentioned.

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I see where you could make the argument that poker is somewhat sinful

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I don't. Every time gambling is discussed from a Christian perspective, I see people bringing out extra-Biblical arguments. They have to, because gambling is barely mentioned in the Bible, and it's not condemned when it is mentioned.

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I am about to invoke the wrath of t3h Lord once my account registration is complete.

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I find myself constantly torn up with inner debate alot about this subject. I am Christian as well

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Also if I could get any Bible scriptures about this is would be greatly appreciated.

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Also if I could get any Bible scriptures about this is would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm assuming you're not leveling in 1st post, and I wanna see this too. Not that it would change my opinion I just am interested.

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I see where you could make the argument that poker is somewhat sinful

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I don't. Every time gambling is discussed from a Christian perspective, I see people bringing out extra-Biblical arguments. They have to, because gambling is barely mentioned in the Bible, and it's not condemned when it is mentioned.

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The Roman soldiers gambling for Jesus' clothes when he was crucified and the disciples drawing lots to see who would replace Judas are two examples off the top of my head.

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Here?

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I am a Christian (Methodist, FWIW). I recognize that this is an unpopular viewpoint on this board, and I am not out to try to "convert" anybody here. But I believe there is a lot of wrong information being spread about gambling by the religious establishment.

There is no biblical proof that poker, or any other gambling for that matter, is sinful. Obviously, the Bible is not going to specifically talk about poker, as the game didn't even exist until about 1700 years after the last book of the Bible was written; but other forms of gambling definitely DID exist during biblical times (the Roman soldiers casting lots for Jesus's clothing on the cross being just one example.) I have asked many biblical scholars of various denominations about the subject, and none of them have been able to provide me with anything other than doctrine created by humans.

So, I went straight to the source...I prayed and asked God Himself. This is the answer I received:

There are many things associated with poker playing that are sinful. Berating a fish over a bad beat, allowing the game to consume your life, shirking your financial responsibilities due to poker losses...all these are sinful. But the poker playing itself, whether for play money or real money, and regardless of the stakes involved, is not sinful.

So it could be said, ironically, that most of the ways to avoid sin while playing poker stem from the teachings of David Sklansky, an avowed atheist.

You want to avoid sin while playing poker? Read Sklansky's Theory of Poker, Malmuth's Poker Essays, and Schoonmaker's Psychology of Poker...therein lies most of the info a Christian poker player needs.

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Also if I could get any Bible scriptures about this is would be greatly appreciated.

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not leveling.

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As I've stated several times in these forums, I am not only a Christian, but a pastor! And FWIW, I'm an Evangelical (Bible-believing, Bible-preaching), not a liberal Christian. And, I play poker.

Does the Bible condemn gambling? No. However, there are still biblical principles that apply. Note, for instance, that the bible also doesn't mention using drugs, etc., but we can still gather from stated biblical principle that drugs are a sin for a Christian.

Principles: 1) being a bad steward with your money. Answer: The bible gives clear indication what to do with your money: pay your bills, take care of your family, give to the church and to those who are less fortunate, and save some. The rest, as far as I'm concerned, can be used for fun and entertainment.
2) Contributing to an industry that is a major factor in ruining lives. Answer: Now, this is a true problem for Christians. Can I really rejoice in a huge pot I took down if by doing so, the other guy is now bankrupt, losing his house, getting divorced, etc.? That's a tough one to live with.
3) Do things in moderation. The bible does not prohibit certain things such as drinking and gambling. The issue at stake is to not get addicted or to allow those things to control your life. If I'm playing so much poker on-line or live so that I'm leaving my family alone, neglecting my job, not cleaning the house or doing yardwork, etc., and by doing so I'm failing to lead my family, then that is a definite violation of biblical principle. So a Christian can, I believe, play poker. But we have to be alert and vigilant to avoid letting it control us.

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So, I went straight to the source...I prayed and asked God Himself. This is the answer I received:

There are many things associated with poker playing that are sinful. Berating a fish over a bad beat, allowing the game to consume your life, shirking your financial responsibilities due to poker losses...all these are sinful. But the poker playing itself, whether for play money or real money, and regardless of the stakes involved, is not sinful.

So it could be said, ironically, that most of the ways to avoid sin while playing poker stem from the teachings of David Sklansky, an avowed atheist.

You want to avoid sin while playing poker? Read Sklansky's Theory of Poker, Malmuth's Poker Essays, and Schoonmaker's Psychology of Poker...therein lies most of the info a Christian poker player needs.

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WTF!! I asked God the same thing and he told me poker would curse my soul! [censored] just doesn't want me at his tables obv.

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Also if I could get any Bible scriptures about this is would be greatly appreciated.

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not leveling.

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and veery very worse causes even causes penal cancer which is jus a little less than hell itself


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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA

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As I've stated several times in these forums, I am not only a Christian, but a pastor! And FWIW, I'm an Evangelical (Bible-believing, Bible-preaching), not a liberal Christian. And, I play poker.

Does the Bible condemn gambling? No. However, there are still biblical principles that apply. Note, for instance, that the bible also doesn't mention using drugs, etc., but we can still gather from stated biblical principle that drugs are a sin for a Christian.

Principles: 1) being a bad steward with your money. Answer: The bible gives clear indication what to do with your money: pay your bills, take care of your family, give to the church and to those who are less fortunate, and save some. The rest, as far as I'm concerned, can be used for fun and entertainment.
2) Contributing to an industry that is a major factor in ruining lives. Answer: Now, this is a true problem for Christians. Can I really rejoice in a huge pot I took down if by doing so, the other guy is now bankrupt, losing his house, getting divorced, etc.? That's a tough one to live with.
3) Do things in moderation. The bible does not prohibit certain things such as drinking and gambling. The issue at stake is to not get addicted or to allow those things to control your life. If I'm playing so much poker on-line or live so that I'm leaving my family alone, neglecting my job, not cleaning the house or doing yardwork, etc., and by doing so I'm failing to lead my family, then that is a definite violation of biblical principle. So a Christian can, I believe, play poker. But we have to be alert and vigilant to avoid letting it control us.

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this is a very refreshing post, imo, for christians and non-christians alike.

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and veery very worse causes even causes penal cancer which is jus a little less than hell itself


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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA

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if he doesn't masturbate, and doesn't need much sex in marriage either, I don't see his problem [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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As I've stated several times in these forums, I am not only a Christian, but a pastor! And FWIW, I'm an Evangelical (Bible-believing, Bible-preaching), not a liberal Christian. And, I play poker.

Does the Bible condemn gambling? No. However, there are still biblical principles that apply. Note, for instance, that the bible also doesn't mention using drugs, etc., but we can still gather from stated biblical principle that drugs are a sin for a Christian.

Principles: 1) being a bad steward with your money. Answer: The bible gives clear indication what to do with your money: pay your bills, take care of your family, give to the church and to those who are less fortunate, and save some. The rest, as far as I'm concerned, can be used for fun and entertainment.
2) Contributing to an industry that is a major factor in ruining lives. Answer: Now, this is a true problem for Christians. Can I really rejoice in a huge pot I took down if by doing so, the other guy is now bankrupt, losing his house, getting divorced, etc.? That's a tough one to live with.
3) Do things in moderation. The bible does not prohibit certain things such as drinking and gambling. The issue at stake is to not get addicted or to allow those things to control your life. If I'm playing so much poker on-line or live so that I'm leaving my family alone, neglecting my job, not cleaning the house or doing yardwork, etc., and by doing so I'm failing to lead my family, then that is a definite violation of biblical principle. So a Christian can, I believe, play poker. But we have to be alert and vigilant to avoid letting it control us.

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as a non-Christian, this is a very good philosophy to live by, IMO.