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Eagles 11-27-2007 01:13 AM

$600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
Playing HU Villain has been pwning me up a bunch
He's noit very observant mainly plays his own hand strength. He stacked me twice already once when I c/r J9 on a Q8Tdd board and he sucked out with QJ. The other time he c/r turn on an 8873 board and i got it in with AA he had 8T. He doesn't vbet thin at all and has made a few river checks in position when it was very obvious I almost never had a better hand.

I haven't really won many big pots from him.
Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $2,504.50
Hero (SB): $652.50

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, BB calls $12

Flop: ($36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $126</font>, Hero calls $96

Turn: ($288) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $224</font>,

BobboFitos 11-27-2007 02:16 AM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
call / call

bigt439 11-27-2007 03:58 AM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
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call / call

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this sounds horrible against the described villain... im just trying to decide whether to fold the turn... rivers def a fold if he shoves.

MatthewRyan 11-27-2007 04:58 AM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
i hate to say this but, if u call turn u call river

Ap0calypse 11-27-2007 05:26 AM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
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i hate to say this but, if u call turn u call river

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Against this villian...I really don't see what you beat besides a complete bluff. I feel like you answered what you should do on all streets just based off your description of said villian. I think this is a flop fold, as played I'd fold.

Eagles 11-27-2007 01:00 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
I think this a fold its just like I flopped the nuts (more or less) He doesn't have AQ or KK/AA/QQ So its like 22 or 66 or I'm good. I guess that's a big enough part of his range that I can fold but its just really annoying. FWIW I obvioulsy got it in against 22.

AcTiOnJaCsOn 11-27-2007 01:05 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
ya was goin to say fold

luegofuego 11-27-2007 01:33 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
eagles, its HU so u are not allowed to fold TP?

Pasterbator 11-27-2007 01:35 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
i think you showed me the J9 vs QJ hand, but can you post it? I think that pushes it a bit towards a call/call if i remember it correctly.

trambopoline 11-27-2007 01:39 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
Id just shove turn or fold, leaning more towards a shove though w/out a very good read.

Eagles 11-27-2007 01:41 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
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eagles, its HU so u are not allowed to fold TP?

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Yes [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Umm FWIW the QJ hand was he raises button I call J9. Flop is q8Tdd i check he bets 36 I c/r to 150 or somethign he shoves for 500 more with QJ with the Jd and hits runnign diamonds.

jshove87 11-27-2007 01:45 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
Not sure if this guy is capable or not but a c/r on this flop with air isn't that out of the question. Playing against a good Hu player who C-bets most dry flops like this it would be hard to put him on anything besides a queen, a set, or complete air. Is making it $300 on the flop to get the ultimate information about our hand within the realm of possibility or is that just completely dumb? I understand we scare away all hands we beat + all bluff potential but at least we know where we stand without having to stick in our whole stack.

bigt439 11-27-2007 02:37 PM

Re: $600NL I can\'t belive I want to fold this
 
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I think this a fold its just like I flopped the nuts (more or less)

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if you think like this... well... its not good.


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