tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

ok boys, trying to get back in the game. found some questionables in my ptracker. let me have it.

edit: opponent here is kogo9. to be honest i've been flying blind in these games, but i don't recall him being crazy or anything.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($3884)
UTG ($6089)
UTG+1 ($4860)
MP1 ($9762)
AJ ($5075)
MP3 ($4875)
CO ($5688.70)
Button ($5294)
SB ($11779)

Preflop: AJ is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">AJ raises to $175</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $175, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($425) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
AJ checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($425) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">AJ bets $350</font>, Button calls $350.

River: ($1125) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">AJ bets $1050</font>, Button calls $4769 (All-In), AJ folds.

Final Pot: $6944

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

i really cant put him on a hand...
I just cant see him not raising a hand like 9Thh or something somewhere, or a set....
I'm so confused I call. I play 50NL so dont worry about me.

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

looks like the river made his hand, if he had a hand, since he'd have played a set on the flop or turn more aggressively(with so many draws out there)
he played it like he could have 910(no hearts), don't think pocket sixes call the turn
also, bet the flop
IMO he has air

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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wow.

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River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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wow.

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Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

does he really check flop with 9T after you checked an A high flop? I think he would autobet at it with any sort of draw. He might check a set though. Any idea at all how he would or most people in this game would play those hands when the prf checks an A high flop?

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

Is flop a whiffed c/r? Why no lead?

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IMO a rvr fold would have been much easier had you bet the flop.

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I'll bet flop here.

On river, bet about 600, call raise to 1800, fold to all in.
As played, your river bet represents exactly what you have, making it more enticing for villain to push you off with worse hand, and you only have to fold a little more than 2/3 of time. IMO, if you bet 600, he's less likely to get crazy with hand you beat and just calls if he has something like 78/76/worse Ace, or just folds his 56.

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Why no flop bet?

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I like the flop check if you didn't have the nut flush draw....look at the hand you have on the turn and look how much money is in the pot......river - as played, if this is never a bluff by villain you just have to estimate how often this is ever a smaller two-pair....probably not often, but that I don't know....

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River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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this is terrible. there are so many hands that check behind that would call a bet on the river. you really want to check the river given the flop check?

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

i guess i will mention that checking the flop here is not a matter of policy and i would probably bet it most of the time

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you're not fooling anyone with that flop check

this is pretty much an autobet board for a preflop raiser

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River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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this is terrible. there are so many hands that check behind that would call a bet on the river. you really want to check the river given the flop check?

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I disagree.

Hero is so obviously weak that a good player should shove this river all day long. Why open ourselves up to that? We're going to bet the river, why? Full pot? So he can fold his weak ace, mid pair, missed draw? No...we should be checking so villian can bluff because he likely won't call with his the majority of his hand range.

Another alternative would be a very weak block bet, like $300ish. But I don't care too much for that.

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River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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this is terrible. there are so many hands that check behind that would call a bet on the river. you really want to check the river given the flop check?

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I disagree.

Hero is so obviously weak that a good player should shove this river all day long. Why open ourselves up to that? We're going to bet the river, why? Full pot? So he can fold his weak ace, mid pair, missed draw? No...we should be checking so villian can bluff because he likely won't call with his the majority of his hand range.

Another alternative would be a very weak block bet, like $300ish. But I don't care too much for that.

[/ QUOTE ]im thinking its gotta be at least even money u have somehow misred the hand.

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

that's what i was thinknig. does he know we have AQ on an AQ876 no flush board HU?

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River is a fold but it should go check/call since you showed so much weakness. I think you played it fine up until then though.

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this is terrible. there are so many hands that check behind that would call a bet on the river. you really want to check the river given the flop check?

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I disagree.

Hero is so obviously weak that a good player should shove this river all day long. Why open ourselves up to that? We're going to bet the river, why? Full pot? So he can fold his weak ace, mid pair, missed draw? No...we should be checking so villian can bluff because he likely won't call with his the majority of his hand range.

Another alternative would be a very weak block bet, like $300ish. But I don't care too much for that.

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u too funny.

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

please destroy this flop with monies. ure equity is HUUUGE here. as playd i think u may be stuck calling here? idk, the fact that u didnt bet the flop really confuses me here on what villain could have. T9 maybe, but idk if i would assume my implied were there enough of the time since u checkd the flop, if i were villain.

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im thinking its gotta be at least even money u have somehow misred the hand.

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Forgive me ok? I did. In my state of doing six-million things at once, I was thinking we had AJ, not AQ (OP's name stuck in my head I guess).

Call and screw everything I said.

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im thinking its gotta be at least even money u have somehow misred the hand.

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Forgive me ok? I did. In my state of doing six-million things at once, I was thinking we had AJ, not AQ (OP's name stuck in my head I guess).

Call and screw everything I said.

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and flawless pats himself on the back

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

It looks like he hit something big. You played hand so weak it is hard to tell. I fold or call depending on your read of the guy but I agree that you should have bet that flop Hard. You seriously underrepresented your hand which makes me want to call even more...but, as played, maybe a fold is in order.

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It looks like he hit something big. You played hand so weak it is hard to tell. I fold or call depending on your read of the guy but I agree that you should have bet that flop Hard. You seriously underrepresented your hand which makes me want to call even more...but, as played, maybe a fold is in order.

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So he should call or fold here?

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT JUST HAPPENED. SOORRRY. CAAAllllllllllLlLLL i guess

Re: tourney donk needs your help - hand 1
 

Muck. If he shows A6, then I punch myself in the face.

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does he really check flop with 9T after you checked an A high flop? I think he would autobet at it with any sort of draw. He might check a set though. Any idea at all how he would or most people in this game would play those hands when the prf checks an A high flop?

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I'd have no problem floating T9 there.