2/4 JJ
 

Villain is 25/11 over 100 hands and seems pretty meh. Ive been pretty LAGy running like 19/16 and have been caught bluffing a few times.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $581.25
BB: $129.40
UTG: $373.15
UTG+1: $342.95
MP1: $326.95
MP2: $398.05
MP3: $139.95
CO: $48.00
Hero (BTN): $480.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $12.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, 2 folds, MP1 calls $36.00

Flop: ($102) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $72.00</font>, MP1 calls $72.00

Turn: ($246) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($246) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $264.00</font>,

its 210 to him

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

Tell me about the turn check, i am curious what you were thinking at this spot?

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

at first glance I thought I liked this a lot but on this board you really can only expect value from 66 TT and 99 which is admittedly his likely range (maybe QQ as well) as he'd prob vbet any boats on the river.

it's fps but it might be better to bet 1/3rd pot and call a shove if he is likely to be desperate or aggressive at this point.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

^^ and the reason i say 1/3rd is that he'll never shove a hand that beats you (QQ) and there's no way he would go for a riv c/r with a boat imo. it also gives him the opportunity to turn AK or something into a bluff.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

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Tell me about the turn check, i am curious what you were thinking at this spot?

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Me, too.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

I kind of like it. Looks like your trying to make a bluff with somthing like AK or AQs. I think you will get alot of calls from worse hands. I highly doubt your getting any better hands to fold though.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

because the odds of him calling on the turn with TT 99 are slim, and he may elect to turn other hands like AK and randomness into bluffs on the river.

also most players will not call a bet on the turn with TT 99 but feel that the line is "fishy" given he checked the turn and call a shove on the river with the same hands.

thats my guess as to his logic anyway.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

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I kind of like it. Looks like your trying to make a bluff with somthing like AK or AQs. I think you will get alot of calls from worse hands. I highly doubt your getting any better hands to fold though.

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There's no folding equity here but you definitely will have weaker hands look you up.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

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Tell me about the turn check, i am curious what you were thinking at this spot?

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Probably because we only get two streets of value from hands we beat.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

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Tell me about the turn check, i am curious what you were thinking at this spot?

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Me, too.

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Turn check is superstandard. I don't see anything else to do really.


I'm not so sure about river. I think he's folding like 80% of the time and looking you up with a FH, smaller pair, or QQ the other 20%. I usually vbet rivers pretty big, but I think I like $136 in this spot.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

i think that i stick it in on the turn here at least 85% of the time

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

seems super standard. best hand he shows up with is QQ, he's not showing up with any FH, because checking 2 streets there is crazy. i really hate these spots w/ JJ, hence 3/betting with them makes for difficult decisions, as on low flops if it gets AI i rarely think you're good.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

I like it. I like the thin value bet on the river. Renton why would u push the turn instead ?

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

bc of our image and the fact he has TT/99/draw a lot.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

I started to do this the other day and a he's got queens flashed through my head so I checked. He had queens.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

I like this line. You will get looked up light often enough, or else villain will fold. I don't see him showing up with better (except maybe QQ).

I like the amount as well, because it looks more like a desperate AK.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

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i think that i stick it in on the turn here at least 85% of the time

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but also easy shove after the 3 hits hit the river. QQ is the only hand
you are losing to, like 99% of the time.

good players know you aint bluffing the river never here. Bad players think this is always a bluff.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

I like a turn push since its a 3 bet pot, villain has less than PSB left, and the board is drawy.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

nh.

Re: 2/4 JJ
 

Check on turn very standard, makes it look like AK cbet, called down, and checked. Pot bet on river makes it look like steal. You'll get called by middle pair here a lot I think with your line and image.