10/20- I was completely lost
 

Villain is Schnizeltoe or something running avg tag slag whatever ish 24/19 or something. did this earlier so i dont think hes very good:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($3252.50)
SB ($3158)
BB ($2164)
UTG ($2025)
MP ($330)
CO ($2304)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $260</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $180.

Flop: ($550) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $440</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2044</font>, Hero calls $1604.

Turn: ($4638) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($4638) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $4638

he showed 99 with the 9c, not that that matters too much.



And noooowwww a gross overbet! thoughts? I mean, I do have the highest possible pair amiright???

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($2826)
Button ($1970)
SB ($2252)
BB ($4375)
UTG ($2000)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($160) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2182</font>,

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

ok, if you don't want to reason: just say, do you call or fold?

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

Hand 1: Standard snapcall I think--you beat alot of underpairs that are in his range.

Hand 2: Too read dependent to give an accurate response. This overbet could mean alot of different things for alot of different players, but I would still lean towards a call. It seems more like a weak ace wanting to get it in on the flop and avoid tough decisions on later streets than a monster.

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

Unless hes visibly tilted, i think its a fold

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

need a read that he's on diamonds to make a marginal call here. is two pair in his range. obv sets are what about better aces?

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

i would be absolutely dumbfounded if he showed up with a better ace

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

fold quickly.

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

i'd fold, pretty much every time i've called here i've been shown a set.

edit: also i don't think his play is bad in hand 1, esp vs you who 3 bets 2 cards there.

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

I mean if he's a fish it's an instacall.... 24/19's don't usually do [censored] like this, so I really don't know wtf to do. I'd probably fold, but I wouldn't be thrilled about it

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

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i'd fold, pretty much every time i've called here i've been shown a set.

edit: also i don't think his play is bad in hand 1, esp vs you who 3 bets 2 cards there.

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skier- weirdest [censored] ever, in my 400k or so hands of poker lifetime this has never happened to me lol. specially not insta shove

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

I think he played the first hand well. Second hand, I fold and let him have this one. If this is something he starts to incorporate into his game, then we can debate the best line.

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

i think villain played the first hand badly. It's a reraised pot, so he obviously does a good job of protecting his hand against unimproved overcards (AK, AQs etc), but his all-in is very likely to be called only by those hands that beat him e.g. JJ+. Everytime hero calls, he is crushed.

The first hand is different to the second in that the second is not a re-raised pot. You aren't as close to any kind of commitment threshold and you are getting worse odds. In the first hand, the flop is dry and unlikely to have hit you. In the second hand, Axx is likely to give you TPTK.

Furthermore, the fact the he earlier spewed in a similar situation means that he is likely to try and leverage that image. This would be the perfect spot for him with 2pair or better.

Re: 10/20- I was completely lost
 

Ben, this is a pretty easy call especially seeing as you don't have the Ad in your hand. Yes he could have a set here (or A9 for that matter) but with a donk like this.... I'd rather not give him credit, especially when we know he is doing this with all flush draws.