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Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
My image is pretty tag, not tight but not outa line. Most people at the table probably have me at 23/18/3. There's a 45 vpip valuestation in the blinds.
The game is 6 handed. Ive got 3k infront, the donk in blinds has 3k, and the lagtag that cold called me in MP has 1900ish. I open 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] utg for $70, a lagtag (30/20/2, not a good player, lacks some fundamentals that even most 3/6nl tags have from what I've obvserved) calls in mp, its folded to the donk in the BB whom also calls. FLOP: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pot: $220 Donk checks, I bet $190, lagtag raises to $460, donk folds, I think for a couple moments and call. TURN: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] pot: $1140 I check, he checks behind. RIVER: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pot: $1140 ??????????????????????? What I ended up doing is checking instead of turning my hand into a bluff. He shoves for about $1370. discuss |
Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
You're in this hand..why?!
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Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
Because I enjoy fist pumping in unusual and uncomfortable places. You probably don't like preflop. That's fine. You probably don't like the flop call. Thats fine. Counting outs is a skill
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ya pre flop is whatever if you want to open this cool, but flop call seems like total spew.
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30/20/2, not a good player, lacks some fundamentals that even most 3/6nl tags have from what I've obvserved) [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like same could be said for you IMO. Not trying to be rude, but preflop is OK, yeah, but the flop is just a complete joke. If you called his river shove, I don't see how you could be playing 10/20 NL unless you're some rich maniac. |
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He obviously has 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], insta-call.
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Yes I am a 30/20 rich donk. Given that, please save yourself the time and effort jsmith2007 and cease posting in my threads. Perhaps someday I can be as good as you.
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why the [censored] does every post have to be in italics?
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I'm not trying to be cocky or arrogant or hurtful. I'm here to help players as much as I can. I just don't see how you can call so many others donks and 'judge' other people as donks and fish when you're one yourself. Obviously that is why you're here at 2+2 to help out.
Now, for serious advice, you should be folding the flop. Preflop is a very bad play, but as done, you have to go with it. I see no reason to call that flop at all when he raises you. For the river, I would choose to check behind and hope he does too. He will probably turn over a weak ace, say AT and have you beat. |
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Its hard to check behind oop
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This is silly, I already gave the correct analysis. Might as well confirm results now and lock the thread.
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Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
shove river
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Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
missed draw.....results
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Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
what is a lagtag?
easy fold in this spot, too |
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what is a lagtag? easy fold in this spot, too [/ QUOTE ] LAG preflop, TAG postflop. |
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what is a lagtag? easy fold in this spot, too [/ QUOTE ] Good question... I like a fold preflop UTG, but I guess it's fine, flop is such an easy fold. River is an ultra insta fold... |
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i dont fold pf, and i could understand hero calling the flop, but on the river the only legit hand he beats is 45. EVERY other straight draw either hit big or is bluffing w/ better, a bluff with made hands here are all likely better, and of course if he's just VBing a normal hand those are all better. esp. if villain is TAG postflop, I just dont see how you're good on the river more then 8 to 11% of the time
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Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
lol
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45 hit
86s is the only conceivable semibluff hand you beat |
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Mods take away this man italics
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Preflop is a very bad play, [/ QUOTE ] What????? |
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shove river [/ QUOTE ] really? |
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flop call is fine sometimes if hes raising our cbets alot but OOP I probably just let it go. As played I think river is fine and id fold.
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Check/fold now plz thx
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Re: Bizarre Stuff @ 10/20nl 75s
which hands check behind a drawy turn then wants to put money in on the 3o river? (besides 33).
I like gp's shove idea b/c of this since my hand is a fairly weak bluff catcher. |
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Now, for serious advice, you should be folding the flop. Preflop is a very bad play, but as done, you have to go with it [/ QUOTE ] absolute statements are people with absolute knowledge, it is clear that ain't you. preflop is not "very very bad", not even close. Flop can be correct aswell especially with these odds. Qualitative responses are far better than ones that don't really help out, especially when mocking or insulting the OP. |
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