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James. 08-03-2007 08:57 PM

August Cheese(LC)
 
low content here plz. 'kay. thx.


goot luck with your pokerings and other such ventures this month. may your flushes come in, your straights hit, and your sets fill up.

Frond 08-03-2007 09:39 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
I'll start with hopefully a good one. This is true BTW.

Some of you may or may not know that I am a professional musician. A few 2+2ers know this. My older brother is also. He plays all of the various saxophones and writes music for films and TV etc. We both have done music as a profession our entire lives(It is in the family several generations back). Anyways, I have totally neglected to tell anyone here but my brother did a lot of the saxophone recording for the movie Rounders. There are several short sax solos here and there and that is my brother playing. He is listed in the ending credits I believe. Pretty cool eh! I'm proud what can I say. It is poker related so it fits in this forum. That is all.

Sincerely, Frond the Average

James. 08-03-2007 09:54 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
i envy the fact that you are a professional musician. it's pretty cool, and not just because you were able to drink from the Stanley cup.

what is your brother's name?

Frond 08-04-2007 01:10 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
James, I PMd you.

PokerJans 08-04-2007 03:07 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
What does Frond stand for btw?

StrictlyStrategy 08-04-2007 03:09 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Started off with a good month.

$2400 in the 10 this week.

Frond 08-04-2007 03:12 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Frond as in Palm frond, the leafy part of a palm tree. The name is not for sale PokerJ! You may lease it if you have good credit though.

SS-You seem to run pretty well. GG

HoneyBadger 08-04-2007 03:39 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Started off with an immediate 100 BB downer [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Oh well, just ignore it, I guess. It's sad, though, because I was just out of one.

On a different note, my latest experiment looks promising: the data I collected testing myself exactly matched expectations. The next step is determining our hypothesis; three cheers for modern science! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

James. 08-04-2007 03:42 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
what's your experiment and what data did you collect?

James. 08-04-2007 04:42 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
i think Deathdonkey is lined up to do our next "Well". i'm really looking forward to it. apparently he did one a few months back in the micros, but i missed it.

HoneyBadger 08-04-2007 07:42 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
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what's your experiment and what data did you collect?

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We're basically testing the range where you can still see true 3D in virtual reality, i.e. how many centimeters in and out of the screen, and what influences this range both positively and negatively. (it wasn't poker related)

Frond 08-05-2007 12:36 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
That well with Deathdonkey sounds cool.

I was also hoping that we could get Bernie to one in the near future as well. That would be really great.

PokerJans 08-05-2007 04:21 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
9-18 from Commerce,

My new best friend open limps from the HJ, I raise KJ from SB, and BB comes along

KT7r

Bet, call, call

KT76r

I Bet, fold, call

KT769

I bet, I am called and lose to Q8o

Cool

StrictlyStrategy 08-05-2007 10:58 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Dude, I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo [censored] sick of losing to people calling with two unders, no draw.

Running bad, raise KK after two limpers, one cold caller. K82r, I lose to J9s VNH SIR VVVVVV NH


J82r losing to 54o? COME ON. COME [censored] ON.

And I lose to J high ND like once a day when I play. K67 YEAH SO WHAT I HAVE JTS I CALL LOL I TURNED A J YOU ONLY HAD 99 SO I WIN HAHAHAHAHAHA

HoneyBadger 08-05-2007 11:28 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Hehe, typical. Sounds very familiar. Did you already hit the "I capped flop and 3 bet turn with my gutshot because I thought you had AK and could bluff you, then hit my gutshot on the river" line? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

meep_42 08-05-2007 08:10 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Full Tilt 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $2.
MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG (poster) calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB doesn't show.
UTG+1 doesn't show.
MP1 doesn't show.
MP2 has 6c 6h (four of a kind, eights).
Hero has 7s 7c (four of a kind, eights).
Outcome: MP2 wins 3.37 BB. Hero wins 3.37 BB. </font>

James. 08-05-2007 09:29 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
maybe i'm stupid, but didn't you have him outkicked with 88887 versus his 88886?

StrictlyStrategy 08-05-2007 09:38 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Converter error, you also have two people at showdown who never saw the river.

meep_42 08-05-2007 09:48 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
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maybe i'm stupid, but didn't you have him outkicked with 88887 versus his 88886?

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Yes, but what do you think my reaction was when the river hit?
...and yeah, I did win.

-d

James. 08-05-2007 10:58 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
[ QUOTE ]
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maybe i'm stupid, but didn't you have him outkicked with 88887 versus his 88886?

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Yes, but what do you think my reaction was when the river hit?
...and yeah, I did win.

-d

[/ QUOTE ]

"well [censored]"?

StrictlyStrategy 08-05-2007 11:07 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
maybe i'm stupid, but didn't you have him outkicked with 88887 versus his 88886?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, but what do you think my reaction was when the river hit?
...and yeah, I did win.

-d

[/ QUOTE ]


"I JUST MADE QUADS."

meep_42 08-05-2007 11:33 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
maybe i'm stupid, but didn't you have him outkicked with 88887 versus his 88886?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, but what do you think my reaction was when the river hit?
...and yeah, I did win.

-d

[/ QUOTE ]

"well [censored]"?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, that's precisely it. I cursed and showed it to my gf before checking the river. Then I laughed.

-d

Lethe 08-06-2007 03:30 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Live 4/8 at the local card room.

I've played with the villain in question many, many, many times before. He is very tight, but plays far too weak and misses value all the time. He also knows that I for the most part play a pretty straightforward TAG style in these crazy 4/8 games.

Villain is UTG+1 and raises, 2 callers, I 3-bet AKs in the SB, and the BB caps it! We call and everyone else folds. BB is a pretty horrible player who has a lot of chips in front of him. If he raises he generally has the goods.

Flop is T99. I check, BB bets, villain calls, I call.

Turn is an A. I check with the intention to raise, BB bets out, Villain raises now, I 3-bomb that [censored] as intended and BB folds.

Here’s where it gets interesting: Villain blurts out “are you freaking kidding me? AWWWW… he has Aces” and then folds his hand faceup. What’s his hand do you ask? TT. LOL! When I see this I say “woooow dude, that is crazy”. I then flip over my AKs and he goes on life tilt.

KitCloudkicker 08-06-2007 03:39 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Yo Meep, you missed a bet, you fish

KitCloudkicker 08-06-2007 03:41 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Live 4/8 at the local card room.

I've played with the villain in question many, many, many times before. He is very tight, but plays far too weak and misses value all the time. He also knows that I for the most part play a pretty straightforward TAG style in these crazy 4/8 games.

Villain is UTG+1 and raises, 2 callers, I 3-bet AKs in the SB, and the BB caps it! We call and everyone else folds. BB is a pretty horrible player who has a lot of chips in front of him. If he raises he generally has the goods.

Flop is T99. I check, BB bets, villain calls, I call.

Turn is an A. I check with the intention to raise, BB bets out, Villain raises now, I 3-bomb that [censored] as intended and BB folds.

Here’s where it gets interesting: Villain blurts out “are you freaking kidding me? AWWWW… he has Aces” and then folds his hand faceup. What’s his hand do you ask? TT. LOL! When I see this I say “woooow dude, that is crazy”. I then flip over my AKs and he goes on life tilt.

[/ QUOTE ]

jen tilly?

HoneyBadger 08-06-2007 03:49 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Funny story, but one question lingers: why exactly do you check-three-bet a single pair on a paired board? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

James. 08-06-2007 04:10 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
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Funny story, but one question lingers: why exactly do you check-three-bet a single pair on a paired board? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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duh, so they'll fold their flopped FH.

HoneyBadger 08-06-2007 04:11 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Haha, oh, yeah, I forgot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I should remember that play...

Lethe 08-06-2007 04:23 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
I was waiting for someone to call me on that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. It was kind of a heat of the moment thing where I was planning on c/r and didn't expect it to be raised getting back to me ... then I just raised anyways as I was originally planning.

FWIW I don't think the pairing of the board really affects the hand much, as the only 9 they have here is 99. But yeah the 3bet is probably bad, and if I just call BB probably does too. I likely win less when I'm ahead and lose more when behind with the line I took. Except, you know, those times when you somehow bet rocks off their flopped FH :P.

PokerJans 08-07-2007 04:39 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
KK &lt; JT
QQ &lt; 98
QQ &lt; 76
TT &lt; 95
AQ &lt; K3 on AQ75 board, hit his flush

And somehow only minus 274 playing 9-18...VICTORY!

Frond 08-07-2007 11:29 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Why have most SoCal card rooms gotten rid of any limit in between 4/8 and 8/16? Not enough interest or? It would be nice to play a limit in the middle there instead of making the bigger leap. HG and Commerce I hear used to have 6/12

Oh that, and my latest theory: Even if you live on a small cul de sac and have great neighbors, there is still at least one loon living amongst you.

StrictlyStrategy 08-07-2007 01:40 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
8/16 is good. Anything less and you're probably going to get eaten up by Cali's sick rake.

Wish me well tonight. I decided not to get a room and will be sleeping in my car which has no air-conditioning.

Or back seats.

ProfessorBen 08-07-2007 01:59 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Frond: You're gunna love the jump to 20/40. :/

Edit: Actually, not trying to scare you. You should make the jump whenever your bankroll gets to that point. Most of your posts have been pretty good or at least show that you are thinking about the game seriously. I would set aside the first free 3k you have and take a shot at Comm 20.

Edit2: Actually, PJ gets mad at me when I recommend people to play his game. Try the Comm 9/18, 15/30 instead.

Frond 08-07-2007 05:34 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Thanks PBen.

I have had several people who I respect a lot tell me that it is time to move up but my roll might be a bit short for the 20 game or even to jump to the 9/18. I am going to keep at the 4/8 for a bit longer and take shots at the 8/16 HG and or the 9/18 Commerce game here and there. It's been about a year of live play now for me. 7-8 months of it more serious. I did take my first shot at 8/16 the other day and liked it. The play was really no better than any 4/8 game I've sat in on so far. In fact a few of the players were a bit worse than some 4/8 dudes I have played with. Can't wait to move up but I'm going to be patient. Been slowly building my roll and learning as much as I can from great players(2+2ers)and beleive it or not, learning from bad players as well. I also need more time in playing

KitCloudkicker 08-07-2007 07:30 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
Open challenge to SSL:

Beat my Donkey Test Score of 124 !

Donkey Poker Test

(fwiw I totally suck at nl but im pretty good at the math)

Xhad 08-07-2007 08:07 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
I got 123

James. 08-07-2007 08:10 PM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
129

KitCloudkicker 08-08-2007 12:38 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
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129

[/ QUOTE ]

you run gut, sir

James. 08-08-2007 08:09 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
129

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you run gut, sir

[/ QUOTE ]

just closed my eyes and guessed.

i will admit there was 5 questions i could only see one of my two holecards or 2 of the 3 flop cards. i tried to surmise what the scenario probably was(i.e. we raise A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x and the flop is rag [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]rag [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]rag [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img])

HoneyBadger 08-08-2007 09:19 AM

Re: August Cheese(LC)
 
I did this test ages ago, but I can't remember my score. I'll try again later. I do remember the first question used to be ambiguous: they only asked what the worst hand was, without mentioning anything else. Therefore, I chose 72o because playing it is worse than playing 32o. I did, however, know the equity of 72o was higher.


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