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Yes I know, cue random insults.

The fact is, there is a lot of circumstancial evidence that technologically we werent capable then - the process would have cost way too much for a PR move during the cold war and that all the astronauts who went there would have absorbed so much radiation they would have come back as walking tumas.

Im sure we have all seen the 'evidence', such as the pictures that seem doctors, where light effects and shadows arent right plus the flapping flag etc.

It also helps that we still dont have telescopes capable of picking out enough detail on the moon - but when we do and there are independant scans/images showing the landers, the rovers and all the other random crap like the flags ill accept we went.

To put this into context, Russia never went there because they didnt see any logical reason to do so (they sent a robotic module just once). If the space suits are so good at stopping radiation, you could put one on and walk around Chenobyl with no risk of radiation. The simple fact is, when Chenobyl went up they used people with no radiation shielding to do the work required to make it 'safe' (they were monitored so they didnt recieve too much of a dose).

Today they use robots - but even these suffer damage to electronics from the radiation because for all the money invested we dont have shielding that is lighter or more practical than a brick of lead.

Finally, watch Capricorn 1. It doesnt require many people to be in the know when it comes to pulling something like this off.

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I dont believe in Loose Change, Im not a wackjob who believes anything and i believe man did not walk on the moon.

Comments?

Who else believes in things to be similarly wacky and generally considered to be irration/illogical (Crop circles? Men in black? Holocaust denial? Loose Change? Catholicism?).

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Did someone call me?

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I don't think it's unreasonable to think that man didn't land on the moon, I'd just like to know what kind of odds you'll lay me seeing as I bet it should be proved one way or the other in the next 30 years.

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I don't believe it either

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Wackjob commie.

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u sir, are a motard

it would require a sick amount of people to be in the know on this, do you know how many engineers worked on the moon landing project, how many control people, govt officials, plus astronauts.

ur big argument is that we dont have suits that block radiation?? do you not believe that astronauts do space walks all the freakin time? ( of which there is a ton of video/photo evidence of ) and they dont come back as 'tumas' .

All of that other light effect/shadow stuff is debunked here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...spiracy_theory

There is no reason to go to the moon??? what? Do you have any idea how baller it is to land on the moon? it may not seem like a big deal now that we have done it but if you tell somebody just 100 yrs ago that we are going to land on the moon they would think you are crazy. it is a HUDGE accomplishment for science and man

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Im not a wackjob who believes anything and i believe man did not walk on the moon.


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Scientology isnt a cult - its a belief system structured around believing in a god.... Id have joined the church were it not for the fact i dont believe in a god.

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OK

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see above

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OP,

Each moon mission left a retro-reflector at its landing site. Scientists at various labs and universities -- most of which are not government agencies, mind you -- bounce laser beams off the reflector to measure the distance between the earth and the moon.

The reflectors work. They bounce the laser beam back to earth.

How do you explain this?

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Lets focus on a more current conspiracy....9/11

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The aliens probably put it there a long time ago when they stuffed all those dudes into the volcano.

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yes, they were smart enought to pretty accurately fake a moon landing, but then all the physicists at NASA didn't think they're IS NO WIND ON THE MOON OMG WTF YOU SOLVED IT

oops wait you don't need wind to make a flag flap in zero g dude. simply unrolling the [censored] thing will make it ripple, its called angular momentum.

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also where are the moon rocks (which are fundamentally different from rocks on earth) coming from? did they stop by the moon and pick em up so they could fake going to the moon?

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god you are dumb phil.

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also where are the moon rocks (which are fundamentally different from rocks on earth) coming from? did they stop by the moon and pick em up so they could fake going to the moon?

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Yep. Various labs and universities around the world have samples of these rocks. I think someone would've noticed by now if it were just gravel from Neil Armstrong's driveway.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

OP is this u?

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Im not a wackjob who believes anything and i believe man did not walk on the moon.


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Scientology isnt a cult - its a belief system structured around believing in a god.... Id have joined the church were it not for the fact i dont believe in a god.

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game,set,match

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Don't you think the Russians would have called Bull [censored]. We were in a race to get to the moon and they would have at least wanted to be the first to have a fake moon landing.

I believe you may be the stupidest person on the planet earth.

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Russia sent up unmanned modules to bring back rocks. No reason to think something similar couldnt have been done.

Also same with the retro reflectors.

Stabn, do you live to troll me. Badly. Because its working. Badly.

Scientology isnt a cult. There is plenty of evidence what is generally known as the Church of Scientology is pretty cultish. If i were to have converted i would have joined a Free Zone group rather than the main CoS. Plus, again, i dont believe in a 'god' so i couldnt do so if i wanted.

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OP,

Each moon mission left a retro-reflector at its landing site. Scientists at various labs and universities -- most of which are not government agencies, mind you -- bounce laser beams off the reflector to measure the distance between the earth and the moon.

The reflectors work. They bounce the laser beam back to earth.

How do you explain this?

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This is important, because it's something the moon-landing conspiracy theorists never talk about--because they don't have a good explanation for it.

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[x] OP has leveled everyone
[x] I kick ass at Fight Night Round 2

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Why would Russia know?

Watch Capricorn One, which is basically a good example of how it could have happened with very few knowing about it. Just a small number of techs, the astronauts and the higher ups who sanctioned it.

Furthermore, the reason that astronauts arent subjected to the radiation of space is because the Earth protects them. I forget the name, but there is basically an anti radiation barrier which is way above where sattalites etc orbit.

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[x] Underestimate Phill S' stupidity

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OP,

Each moon mission left a retro-reflector at its landing site. Scientists at various labs and universities -- most of which are not government agencies, mind you -- bounce laser beams off the reflector to measure the distance between the earth and the moon.

The reflectors work. They bounce the laser beam back to earth.

How do you explain this?

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This is important, because it's something the moon-landing conspiracy theorists never talk about--because they don't have a good explanation for it.

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As i said, there is no reason to believe unmanned probes could have been sent up.

I dont know enough about the technical aspects, but im 100% sure if i did i could conceptualise an unmanned unit that does the same job.

Again, im not denying we sent stuff to the moon. Just that there werent men involved.

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the guy who [censored] discovered the Van Allen Belt, the thing you say would fry the astronauts with radiation, Mr. Van Allen himself said it wouldn't be lethal. The astronauts got hit with the equivalent of an xray. also they weren't just waltzing around like in chernobyl they were in a big metal box

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Why would Russia know?

Watch Capricorn One, which is basically a good example of how it could have happened with very few knowing about it. Just a small number of techs, the astronauts and the higher ups who sanctioned it.

Furthermore, the reason that astronauts arent subjected to the radiation of space is because the Earth protects them. I forget the name, but there is basically an anti radiation barrier which is way above where sattalites etc orbit.

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Stop taking stupid pills and dumb caps.

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HAY GUYS

I'M PHIL S. I DONT REALLY KNOW ALOT ABOUT SCIENCE OR PHYSICS OR SPACE OR ANYTHING BUT THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKE YO I KNOW IT. WE PROBLY JUST USED ROBOTS OR SOME [censored]. NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I CAN SURE CONCEPTULIZE IT, CANT U?

BTW SCIENTOLOGY IS LEGIT BUT I DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, I STILL HEART TOM CRUISE THO

BTW I WORK OUT, MOSTLY BENCH

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joke doesn't work the second time

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Here's a vid that describes the back story of scientology in a nutshell. Really. This is all in the actual doctrine.

http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewid...l?itemId=25390

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johndenver,

who are you and how did you become something in bbv so quickly?

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Here's a vid that describes the back story of scientology in a nutshell. Really. This is all in the actual doctrine.

http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewid...l?itemId=25390

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I believe in some really unbelievable [censored] just like you do but my fairy tale has been around a lot longer which makes it more believable that yours.

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did u guys know that the matrix was a conspiracy?

yeah, it was a movie

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Yes, what is generally taught by the CoS and come from the teachings of Hubbard is weird.

But are Thetans really more unbelievable than Angles?

Is Hubbard being a prophet of truth more less weird than Joseph Smith Jr? More people in America are Mormons than Jews, fwiw.

What is less believable, a God who created Earth and the heavens in 7 days, or an Alien race who etc etc. You get my point.

The whole point of belief is it doesnt have to make sense.

Im not here to try and convert you to believing the moon landings were fake. Jesus, dont take life so serious. Lol.

If i were to pick a religion id choose Scientology (but not CoS). But im not in the market for picking a religion right now.

You guys need to chill out or something [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Edit for grammar and stuff.

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But are Thetans really more unbelievable than Angles?

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I haven't paid sceintology enough fees yet to reach this level of knowledge.

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Phill,

If you're not leveling, here's a good review of what Apollo hoax claimants say and some rebuttals:

Bad Astronomy

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Phill,

Whether or not we landed on the moon is immaterial. You are a [censored] idiot for dwelling on it in the first place. DUCY?

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Furthermore, the reason that astronauts arent subjected to the radiation of space is because the Earth protects them. I forget the name, but there is basically an anti radiation barrier which is way above where sattalites etc orbit.

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HAVE YOU TAKEN A SCIENCE CLASS

EVER

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Stabn, do you live to troll me. Badly. Because its working. Badly.


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uhh i'm not trolling you really are one of the dumbest 2p2ers ever.