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BDub1 09-16-2006 08:13 PM

Would you save 10 million people?
 
Here is the conundrum: You have the ability to save 10 miilion people by giving up your own in that pursuit. The catch is no one will ever know it. Would you do it?

The second choice is, given the same set circumstances, would you still save them if it meant giving up your own life, and going down in history as being a mass murderer and traitor?

Keepitsimple 09-16-2006 08:15 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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Here is the conundrum: You have the ability to save 10 miilion people by giving up your own in that pursuit. The catch is no one will ever know it. Would you do it?

The second choice is, given the same set circumstances, would you still save them if it meant giving up your own life, and going down in history as being a mass murderer and traitor?

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george w 09-16-2006 08:18 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
hmmmm quite the conundrum...

yes, yes.

MelchyBeau 09-16-2006 08:22 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
no and no, what if one of those 10 million people turned out to be the next hitler and killed 20 million

kibble420 09-16-2006 08:26 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
What is the point of hypothetical questions like this one?

AngusThermopyle 09-16-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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What is the point of hypothetical questions like this one?

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Why do you want to know?

DoubleDown 09-16-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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Why do you want to know?

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What's it to you?

skiier04 09-16-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
No, No


I guess Im just an ass.

ManChild 09-16-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
Could jesus microwave a burrito so hot that even he coudlnt eat it?

pshabi 09-16-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
If in those 10 million people, my wife or one of my sons was included: Yes

If not: Hell no, I'd rather watch my sons grow.

DrGutshot 09-16-2006 09:24 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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no and no, what if one of those 10 million people turned out to be the next hitler and killed 20 million

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this reasoning makes no sense - you could just as easily say 'what if one of these 10 million people cured AIDS and cancer' - we know nothing about these people so we have to disregard thinking like this.

-DrG

FULL RAKE 09-16-2006 09:25 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
As long as I didn't know them, why would I save 10 million people for any reason? The world's overpopulated as it is.

Scary_Tiger 09-16-2006 09:26 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
Yes and no.

My life is more valuable than ten million others easy.

Warik 09-16-2006 09:28 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
No on both counts, unless one of the would-be victims is someone important to me.

quinn 09-16-2006 09:32 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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no and no, what if one of those 10 million people turned out to be the next hitler and killed 20 million

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I really hope this isn't a serious post.

Yes;Yes..it's not really that close. I don't care that much about how I'm remembered, and while I do care about my life, I don't see anything special enough about it to sacrifice 10 million people.

alvaroaze 09-16-2006 09:33 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
change it to 1 billion and then, maybe, i would do it.

quinn 09-16-2006 09:34 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
Also, this post belongs in the Math, Science, and Philosophy forum.

Warik 09-16-2006 09:35 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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while I do care about my life, I don't see anything special enough about it to sacrifice 10 million people.

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How about the fact that it's yours and it's the only one you'll get? What makes you think your life is any less significant than 10 million others?

gol4pro 09-16-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
If part of the 10 million are important to me, then probably (depending specifically on who they are).

If not, then fuxi-naw.

Suigin406 09-16-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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Yes and no.

My life is more valuable than ten million others easy.

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i did get a laugh out of this...

george w 09-16-2006 10:39 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
to those saying no and citing compassion for family members/friends but not for 10 million randoms, what is so special about someone you know compared to someone you don't? what if it was a 2nd cousin or maybe 4th cousin removed?

what will drive you to give up your life for you sister or mother but say [censored] off to 10 million people that you could save? how does that make any sense?

imagine you are standing up on a platform over a canyon and they had the 10 million people all there ready to be driven over the edge. they are asking you if you will save them or not and you say hell no and watch them all die. who the hell would do that? 10 million people... come on.

Mister Peanut 09-16-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
I have no idea how anyone can answer yes to this, unless you're like 85 years old or grimstarr.

szw 09-16-2006 10:53 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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who the hell would do that? 10 million people... come on.

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Most people

Warik 09-16-2006 11:01 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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what if it was a 2nd cousin or maybe 4th cousin removed?

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Then it sucks to be them.

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what will drive you to give up your life for you sister or mother but say [censored] off to 10 million people

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The fact that my mother, father, and sisters have been the most significant people in my life for all of it (not quite all for the sisters, because I am the oldest) and I would not have a problem with expressing my gratitude by dying so they could live.

What have the 10 million random people done for me? Are they even Americans or part of some other civilized country that will benefit me somehow in the future?

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imagine you are standing up on a platform over a canyon and they had the 10 million people all there ready to be driven over the edge. they are asking you if you will save them or not and you say hell no and watch them all die. who the hell would do that? 10 million people... come on.

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Don't be so ridiculous.

Of course I wouldn't watch.

Warik 09-16-2006 11:03 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
Besides... if God won't save the 10 million people, why should I? Unlike me, He doesn't have to die. They're all yours big fella.

george w 09-16-2006 11:06 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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The fact that my mother, father, and sisters have been the most significant people in my life for all of it (not quite all for the sisters, because I am the oldest) and I would not have a problem with expressing my gratitude by dying so they could live.

What have the 10 million random people done for me? Are they even Americans or part of some other civilized country that will benefit me somehow in the future?


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is it really the fact that they've "done something" for you. if you have a newborn baby, it hasn't done anything for you but you'd save it. what's the real reason.

pauliewalnuts 09-16-2006 11:14 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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The second choice is, given the same set circumstances, would you still save them if it meant giving up your own life, and going down in history as being a mass murderer and traitor?

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Does anyone actually care about how they would be remembered in history? The people that matter would know you werent a murderer. Why does it matter what anyone else thinks? You'd be dead.

Warik 09-16-2006 11:15 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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is it really the fact that they've "done something" for you. if you have a newborn baby, it hasn't done anything for you but you'd save it. what's the real reason.

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Because I would love my baby and it would be my duty as a parent to protect it with my life if I had to.

I do not have any love for 10 million random strangers, nor do I feel any sense of duty to go on a suicide mission to protect them.

Would I risk my life to save them? Sure... but I won't walk into certain death.

I've been very polite and answered your questions. Now I would like for you to answer mine.

Why would YOU sacrifice your life, the only life you will ever have, and leave all of your loved ones behind, to save a bunch of people who have never and will possibly never influence your life or the life of anyone you ever have or ever will be a part of?

szw 09-16-2006 11:17 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
btw this topic has been posted a few times before. most people wouldn't give up their own lives.

george w 09-16-2006 11:19 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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is it really the fact that they've "done something" for you. if you have a newborn baby, it hasn't done anything for you but you'd save it. what's the real reason.

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Because I would love my baby and it would be my duty as a parent to protect it with my life if I had to.

I do not have any love for 10 million random strangers, nor do I feel any sense of duty to go on a suicide mission to protect them.

Would I risk my life to save them? Sure... but I won't walk into certain death.

I've been very polite and answered your questions. Now I would like for you to answer mine.

Why would YOU sacrifice your life, the only life you will ever have, and leave all of your loved ones behind, to save a bunch of people who have never and will possibly never influence your life or the life of anyone you ever have or ever will be a part of?

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because in theory i don't think i'm more important than anyone else. in practice of course it doesn't always work out this way. but idealy i don't think that.

Farfenugen 09-16-2006 11:21 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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Why do you want to know?

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What's it to you?

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What does it matter if we're all going to die in the end anyways?

OMG NOTHING MATTERS!!!

mmbt0ne 09-16-2006 11:21 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
No and no.

In fact, the only thing that would make me consider doing it, is if everyone would know that I chose not to. I'd have to imagine pretty much everyone alive would hate me then.

tufat23 09-16-2006 11:22 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
in both examples, how do you know that you are actually saving people's lives?

In example one you die and everyone lives on without knowing about it.
In example two you die and everyone thinks you are a mass murderer.
how can you guarantee that you actually save anyones life when you die? Only when you live and others die are you sure...

ImsaKidd 09-16-2006 11:44 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
How the hell do you get stuck in this situation anyway? Some sicko just has 10 million people caged up? Then he comes up to you and he says "Alright, it's you, or them."

szw 09-16-2006 11:49 PM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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How the hell do you get stuck in this situation anyway? Some sicko just has 10 million people caged up? Then he comes up to you and he says "Alright, it's you, or them."

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Then he has 1 million + 1 caged

tuq 09-17-2006 12:01 AM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
I don't really care about this question as it's not likely to happen to me any time soon, but I am interested in the way I would die if I went that route. Most of the ways I could die would suck, but if it could be something pleasant like a heroin overdose (which I imagine would involve bliss followed by drifting off) or if I was nailing Kate Beckinsale and then my heart exploded then yeah, it's something I might consider.

Anacardo 09-17-2006 12:01 AM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
Are you kidding? I'd be thrilled to go out this way.

Yes, yes.

hanimal 09-17-2006 12:03 AM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
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Here is the conundrum: You have the ability to save 10 miilion people by giving up your own in that pursuit. The catch is no one will ever know it. Would you do it?

The second choice is, given the same set circumstances, would you still save them if it meant giving up your own life, and going down in history as being a mass murderer and traitor?

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No, no.
Sorry, first and foremost my life revolves around me.
So, I sacrifice myself knowing that no one will ever know it? Or I go down in history as a repugnant mass murderer?
All for people I don't know?
Sorry, no. I know how heroic or whatever it must feel doing something soooo noble but no.

LesaneCrooks 09-17-2006 12:09 AM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH. I crack myself up.

T.J. Combo 09-17-2006 12:17 AM

Re: Would you save 10 million people?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is the conundrum: You have the ability to save 10 miilion people by giving up your own in that pursuit. The catch is no one will ever know it. Would you do it?

The second choice is, given the same set circumstances, would you still save them if it meant giving up your own life, and going down in history as being a mass murderer and traitor?

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An honorable death known only to yourself vs. immortality in every high school and middle school child's history book.

Not that hard a choice.


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