10/20 deep stacked live
 

Hi all...have been lurking a little here but this is my first post! Let's get into the hand...I played this hand at commerce couple weeks ago and it has been bothering me for weeks. Can you guys suggest a better (or correct) way to play this?

I have 6k on the button and the cutoff covers. He has 20K on the table and seems pretty bad (he might be good...i dont play at commerce too often). He isntant called a pot-size river raise shove (about $4000) with AA on a 56JQK flush board. My image is TAG. I did show a stone cold bluff on the turn in a big pot. Onto the hand:

I was dealt AhJh on the button. action folds to cutoff, he limped, and i raise to $100 and cutoff calls. Flop: Jx3c5c
He checks and I bet $200. Cutoff smiled and said "How does it feel to get CR by a donk" and proceed to raise to $600. I tanked and called and I planned to raise all in on a blank turn (bad?). Of course, Turn brings 6c. He instantly bet $1500. I folded...was it too weak? He showed me his hand after I mucked...I will give results later if there is any discussion.

Thank u and nice to meet u all!!!!!

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given stack sizes and the way he sounds, I think if you call turn he'll probably shove river. So either fold turn or call turn and river (barring some gross river or something). I'd say fold turn unless you know more about him.

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seems fine to me without better reads. 3 betting the flop puts you in a world of hurt if he pushes.

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man if he really said that it's hilarious.

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Hi all...have been lurking a little here but this is my first post! Let's get into the hand...I played this hand at commerce couple weeks ago and it has been bothering me for weeks. Can you guys suggest a better (or correct) way to play this?

I have 6k on the button and the cutoff covers. He has 20K on the table and seems pretty bad (he might be good...i dont play at commerce too often). He isntant called a pot-size river raise shove (about $4000) with AA on a 56JQK flush board. My image is TAG. I did show a stone cold bluff on the turn in a big pot. Onto the hand:

I was dealt AhJh on the button. action folds to cutoff, he limped, and i raise to $100 and cutoff calls. Flop: Jx3c5c
He checks and I bet $200. Cutoff smiled and said "How does it feel to get CR by a donk" and proceed to raise to $600. I tanked and called and I planned to raise all in on a blank turn (bad?). Of course, Turn brings 6c. He instantly bet $1500. I folded...was it too weak? He showed me his hand after I mucked...I will give results later if there is any discussion.

Thank u and nice to meet u all!!!!!

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flop bet was wrong. either bet small to set up the re-raise or bet big to set up the fold. as played min re-raise. i like the small bet re-raise line better youre opponent sees set. there are few instances where you want to set up your opponet to do something that makes your response a call. also buy in for less or switch tables and go south if youre not ready to play a deep stack against the lineup youre currently against.

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go all in and give him the finger, then abuse him when he turns up SF

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Fold is fine here.
I'm guessing he showed you QQ+

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Fold is fine here.
I'm guessing he showed you a bluff

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Fold is fine here.
I'm guessing he showed you a bluff

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Cutoff smiled and said "How does it feel to get CR by a donk" and proceed to raise to $600.

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3bet the flop light/call a push. No one ever says this when they have a big hand.

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flop bet was wrong. either bet small to set up the re-raise or bet big to set up the fold. as played min re-raise. i like the small bet re-raise line better youre opponent sees set. there are few instances where you want to set up your opponet to do something that makes your response a call. also buy in for less or switch tables and go south if youre not ready to play a deep stack against the lineup youre currently against.

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What?

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what if turn brings a blank...is raising his psb all in standard here?

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So many donkeys at Commerce, it's unreal, i wouldn't be surprise at all if he show you a bluff.

But if he show you an overpair or a set, well feel good about yourself i guess lol.

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i am pretty comfortable playing deep stacked poker...i have been playing 5/10 NL no max in bycicle regularly. I think my flop bet was ok, and of course my intention of that bet was to figure out where was I in the hand. I was having trouble putting him on a hand...because it folds to him...no limper before him, so I figured he would raise any PPs in that position. I did not put him on a set. I do not think he hit his flush because he bet so much on the turn. (he has the tendency to bet small to keep people in with his monster, but the sample i have is too small) I could have a flush too(?)...I dont know...if I call that turn bet, i am pretty sure he would shove any river.

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flop bet was wrong. either bet small to set up the re-raise or bet big to set up the fold. as played min re-raise. i like the small bet re-raise line better youre opponent sees set. there are few instances where you want to set up your opponet to do something that makes your response a call. also buy in for less or switch tables and go south if youre not ready to play a deep stack against the lineup youre currently against.

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On flop pot was like $230 right? How small should we bet in to that pot with TPTK? Or how much do we bet in to that pot when we want to "bet big" as you put it?

If we min-reraise the flop and he calls the additional $400 then he bets the same $1500 on the turn when the club falls, how does our min-reraise help us?

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hmmm prolly a good fold but its close.

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I mean, you don't really give a read on villain at all besides the fact that he appears to be a huge station

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i doubt the guy showed him QQ and he is still thinking about the hand 2 weeks later. i think the way you played it was fine, although im curious what others think about pushing a blank turn.

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HI...
Is this about time to give the results (...?)
after i folded my hand before thinking about 2 minutes, villain tabled his hand: AJo no club. He then proceeded to talk about how he should've slow play his 'monster' so I can bluff my whole stack away(i am not certain if he was serious though, but he didn't say it jokingly neither). I then went on a mild tilt and quickly left the table. Anyways...thanks for the discussion!!!!!