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6/12 live question about Quads
never thought I'd have a question about how to play my Quads but I'm starting to get back into limit from NL and this hand just came up. I don't remember the exact details of the starting amounts but this will suffice:
8 players. 6/12 MP: $400 CO: $500+ Button (Hero): $400 UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP (aggressive) calls, MP1 folds, CO (aggressive) calls, Hero (I've been playing TAG and haven't shown anyone any big bluffs or unusual plays) has K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG1 calls, MP calls, MP1 folds, CO calls. Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG1 checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets, UTG1 folds, MP raises, CO calls, Hero raises, MP calls, CO calls. Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets (I hope one of them hit a FH), MP raises, CO calls (huh?). What is my move? Do I re-raise and figure both of them filled up and they'll keep paying me or do I flat call? I can't think of any river card that would slow them down except an A if they put me on AA or AK. I figure I just keep raising but want to get some opinions. This was very puzzling turn betting. |
Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
Keep raising. One or both of them has a fh hopefully the nut fh. Its ok to squeeze a player who got counterfieted or has AA or something out, bc they either cant improve by the river or only have a 2 outer to improve. Dont sacrifice the value of a raising war w/ one player just to keep a player who wont put in much more in the pot. WHo knows maybe they both have fhs.
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Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
Slowplaying sucks in general.
Slowplaying really sucks when it looks like your opponents want to put money in the pot. |
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If you like money, I would raise.
No one slows down with a boat on the fear that a PFR has Quads. |
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just don't fold. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
obvious raise. If one of them picked up backdoor diamonds, you want to charge them now to draw dead. You also hope the raiser has a FH and will put in more action.
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Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
OK. That's what I figured but I just wanted to make sure you all thought the same. It was a strange hand but one that I was absolutely in love with. One thing I didn't mention is there was a BBJ so there was no way I could lose.
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Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
Keep raising, noone is folding.
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Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
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Keep raising. One or both of them has a fh hopefully the nut fh. Its ok to squeeze a player who got counterfieted or has AA or something out, bc they either cant improve by the river or only have a 2 outer to improve. Dont sacrifice the value of a raising war w/ one player just to keep a player who wont put in much more in the pot. WHo knows maybe they both have fhs. [/ QUOTE ] You have all 4 K's, they best they can have is 8s full. |
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I am not sure why you mention the bad beat jackpot. By the turn, it is impossible for you to lose this hand. No straight flush possibilities on board.
Rob |
Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
In general...jam as much as you can in on the turn. Who knows what the river will bring that might scare them off.
In this...jam as much as you can in on the turn. Who knows if they'll figure it out? And if you're in the dream spot (quads vs. FH vs. FH), you've got to take it for all it's worth. These situations rarely ever come up. |
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I am not sure why you mention the bad beat jackpot. By the turn, it is impossible for you to lose this hand. No straight flush possibilities on board. Rob [/ QUOTE ] Right, though it would be pretty sweet if the 8 rivered. I agree with everyone, you're probably up against a diamond draw or a boat or both, no reason to slow down here. I've slowplayed quads in LL before but this is definitely not the time. |
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This thread should get locked IMO.
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Re: 6/12 live question about Quads
I think I now understand why they say the University of Chicago is where fun comes to die.
And raise again. |
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I am not sure why you mention the bad beat jackpot. By the turn, it is impossible for you to lose this hand. No straight flush possibilities on board. Rob [/ QUOTE ] I understand that and that's why I didn't bother to mention it in my OP. I just thought I'd throw it in later. I was hoping at least one of them had a FH and would hit their quads also. I would have been fine with the 25% of the BBJ. |
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[ QUOTE ] I am not sure why you mention the bad beat jackpot. By the turn, it is impossible for you to lose this hand. No straight flush possibilities on board. Rob [/ QUOTE ] Right, though it would be pretty sweet if the 8 rivered. I agree with everyone, you're probably up against a diamond draw or a boat or both, no reason to slow down here. I've slowplayed quads in LL before but this is definitely not the time. [/ QUOTE ] I agree although technically I wasn't exactly slow playing them. I was just thinking about slowing down the re-raises in hope that the river would bring even more good fortune but I can definitely see the point in re-raising again. I'm just moving back to limit after years at NL and this hand was really a funny one to me. |
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