25NL AK hand 300bb deep
villain is 48/4.4/2 over 80 hands
he has been limping a lot, no other reads Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($74.80)</font> MP ($29.65) CO ($76.15) Button ($27.60) <font color="#C00000">SB ($74.10)</font> BB ($46.05) Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($3.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.2</font>, MP folds, SB calls $2.20. Turn: ($7.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $10</font> i would like to know what you guys think is the best way to handle this when we are this deep |
Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
It sucks, but I call and let him take control of the hand. Even though Villain's play looks trappy, he may be aware of that, and he also could be "trapping" with a worse king on this board. I'm not folding for just another $5.
If he follows up with a river bomb, then you're going to be in a difficult spot, but I'm pretty sure I would call anything up to a pot-sized bet. Villain's postflop stats are not exactly station-ish given his preflop looseness and preflop passivity. |
Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
as of so far I don't think this was played badly at all although if he steals from you a lot postflop you may want to consider checking flop as a turn card is VERY unlikely to hurt your hand. as played call turn and re eval on river. 2 is a pretty neutral post flop aggression, so I would be inclined to call most river bets and hope he shows kq or kj.
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Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
normally I would just fold without reads, the fact thet we are in position might make me call but it might be a leak. We can't call a reasonable river bet so we would be calling in hopes villain checks river or to hit a K. Neither is going to happen often enough for the call to be profitable imo.
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Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
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It sucks, but I call and let him take control of the hand. [/ QUOTE ] cool this is what I had in mind once he checkraised me. I was concerned that this would be too passive, as I would probably shove if I only had 100bb. I figured it would be best to call a med sized river bet after calling turn [ QUOTE ] I'm not folding for just another $5. [/ QUOTE ] agree. lets say he pops it to 15 or 20. is this still a call/re-eval river scenario? |
Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
if he makes it $15 or $20 to go I likely swallow my pride and fold. Given his looseness he would def show up with a3, k3s, or 77 often enough to fold to a raise this big with deep stacks. but since it's a min raise, it's far more likely he might have kq or kj and that's why I call.
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Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
Call turn and anything up to PSB on river IMO. Do not raise. I'll play 125-150bb pot with TPTK against this dude. There is a very good chance he does have a three but probably does same thing with Kx. Who knows. Don't call some overbet though.
edit: I'd like it better if he raised the flop TBH. Turn is more in line with a three... |
Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not folding for just another $5. [/ QUOTE ] agree. lets say he pops it to 15 or 20. is this still a call/re-eval river scenario? [/ QUOTE ] It's a tough spot. I mean, folding a hand as strong as AK to a turn checkraise seems exploitable as hell. If we're folding that, what the hell could we have that we're calling with? Just KK, 77, and quad 3's, I guess. Then again, turn checkraising exclusively with monster hands is also theoretically exploitable, which is why we're considering folding. To be honest, though, at the table I probably call the turn checkraise to $15-20, with the plan of seeing how much Villain bets on the river. I mean, that paired card on the board is just so low . . . The problem is, though, Villain will usually either bet big on the river and get me to fold, meaning I've paid off a big turn checkraise without even getting to see his hand, or he'll bet $15-20 or so again and I'll pay off his K7o [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. So folding to a big turn checkraise might be the play. |
Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
I've played a villain with similar stats once. Replace the K on the board with an A.
Same exact action, pretty much identical bet sizes, and 250BBs deep instead of 300BBs. I called, he bet 50% on the river and turned over A7 (in your case K7). Obviously we're talking about 2 different hands and a different villain (most likely heh), but I don't think it's impossible for to him to have K7 here. His VPIP is nearly 50. I don't think AK is good here, but I'll repeat what Nick said. Wtf are we calling with then if we fold AK here? I really don't like this spot when you're this deep because very little went into the pot preflop and on the flop compared to the turn/river. |
Re: 25NL AK hand 300bb deep
I would check turn here sometimes vs villan that is likely to also bluff/mnraise paired flops/turns. If I was thinking and not just auto-betthe turn given the flop texture. As played given how deep we are I call the turn minraise getting 4 to 1ish ( for an ace/king and he may have worse) and c/f river a fair amount if he bets decent. |
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