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Split Suit 11-08-2007 01:03 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
if he has a set, u have 12outs, almost coinflip = get mobneys in! GAMBOWL!

CalledDownLight 11-08-2007 01:03 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
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I found this a tough call because a set is such a big part of his range. But tough to pass up 2:1 on the NFD and this has to be a straight often enough to make the call good, right?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $97
SB: $56.20
BB: $100
UTG: $104.90
UTG+1: $126.65
UTG+2: $100
MP1: $131.80
MP2: $98
CO: $31.40

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $3, Hero calls $3, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $8</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $97 and is All-In</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $67 and is All-In

Turn: ($211) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($211) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $211 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON $208 (+$111 NET)
BB showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$97 NET)

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Your gutshot adds enough equity that you are fine even if he has a set here all the time.

the_main 11-08-2007 01:04 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
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if I am playing a 15/6 game right now - am i considered a NIT?

[/ QUOTE ]yes. Right now I'm playing around 14/11/4 and I feel like I'm a nit. As long as you're winning who cares what people describe you as?

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bingo. being a nit is great as long as you recognize your image.

For example, i always have AA/KK when I 3bet squeeze. Always. Please no one ever forget that.

the_main 11-08-2007 01:08 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
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Pattay;
If you are ever feeling down at how much you have to spend for weed, consdier that it costs ~$80-100/GRAM in Korea. So yeah.
And British Coloumbia grows the best bud, hands down.



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HOLY. [censored]. are they just really strict against weed or all drugs?

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Exactly. It's all supply and demand. And since it's almost impossible to find, people can charge whatever they want.

Cry Me A River 11-08-2007 01:13 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
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if he has a set, u have 12outs, almost coinflip = get mobneys in! GAMBOWL!


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While I have outs to improve, so does he. It's def no coin flip!

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Your gutshot adds enough equity that you are fine even if he has a set here all the time.

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Not quite, but certainly close enough given all other possibilities (straight, lower FD, horribly played AA). Can't believe I was thinking I was a bigger dog vs set. Must be getting late, should probly call it a night!

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3880838
pokenum -h ad kd - 4s 4c -- 3d 4d 2h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 4d 3d 2h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Kd 308 31.11 664 67.07 18 1.82 0.320
4s 4c 664 67.07 308 31.11 18 1.82 0.680

Split Suit 11-08-2007 01:15 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
im an omaha8 player at heart. anything within a 60/40 is a coinflip. anything within a 70/30 is a slanted coinflip. =)

the_main 11-08-2007 01:24 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
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wtf is that? Never noticed before

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same. It looks like the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] though a little bit.

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Def. never notcied that, wierd -- K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I think.

Effen 11-08-2007 01:26 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
Suggestions? Original Raiser is 23/16 over 70, 4bet squeezer is unknown.


Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $6.80
UTG: $13.10
UTG+1: $33
MP1: $23.40
MP2: $25
CO: $29.25
Hero (BTN): $24.90
SB: $31.55

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $3.50, <font color="red">CO raises to $29.25 and is All-In</font>, Hero is irritated

Chargers In 07 11-08-2007 01:28 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
I fold, don't think it's close either.

five4suited 11-08-2007 01:29 AM

Re: This is how you burninate a level:
 
Are you really seeing 4-bet squeezes at NL25? I'm curious, not trying to be a dick.


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