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chim17 11-30-2007 04:28 AM

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D2 is really bad for Jgunnip, though. He fights with AJ seemingly all game, but has a vote on Chuckles on day end forcing a flip for AJ and Tarheels.

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My problem here is I often vote for people because they made a mistake.. hoping a villager wouldn't do that.

Thats poor play, and my biggest leak.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:28 AM

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aj= wolf

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aj was actually my fake fake peek d1

(I fake with a villager and sometimes drop a wolf peek too)

chim17 11-30-2007 04:29 AM

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Jgunnip,

Why did you have a vote on Chuckles at end of day 2 when you were fighting with AJ all game?

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:29 AM

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jgunnip

chim, not sure what to say but i suspect you're going to vote me

chim17 11-30-2007 04:30 AM

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I remember when I was good at final 3's :/

chim17 11-30-2007 04:30 AM

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AJ - tarheel
chuckles - dustin
chim - AJ
dustin - AJ
jgunnip - chuckles
mets - tarheel
tarheels - mets

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I really wanted to vote Dustin but I can't get past this.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:31 AM

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Jgunnip,

Why did you have a vote on Chuckles at end of day 2 when you were fighting with AJ all game?

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i didn't get that far in rereading, but im making that argument too

he doesn't want to lynch alex but doesnt want to save him either

chim17 11-30-2007 04:31 AM

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To explain my thoughts..

It looks like Jgunnip was gung-ho on nailing AJ until he had a chance to do so.

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:33 AM

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AGAIN, if chim was wolf he could have won the game already.

and chim, I don't remember exactly why i switched to chuck, but for some reason AJ got in my head.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:35 AM

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nobody is trying to lynch chim

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:35 AM

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I don't think I would make that play d2 as a wolf ESPECIALLY with the seer dead.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:36 AM

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so you're saying you would bus alex or save him?

chim17 11-30-2007 04:37 AM

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meh, Dustin

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:37 AM

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firstly, there's no reason to get meta and try to get village points by suspecting my partner. secondly, talkign about lynching AJ, voting him, and then switching off late is a major noob wolf move that I did a couple of weeks ago in a turbo with soah and got nailed for it big time.

chim17 11-30-2007 04:37 AM

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Sorry if I'm wrong, Jgunnip seemed like alost villager.

Alex Jacob 11-30-2007 04:37 AM

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ship

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:38 AM

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SHIP IT VILLAGE!

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:38 AM

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gg village

d1 was funny because OH never sent me my role and I thought I was a villager

naturally I was awesome. Wolf game was a little less to be desired

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:38 AM

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after D1 Alex sent me a pm that was like "what do you think buddy?"

I assumed that I was the peek and that I was getting NK'd.

lol

chim17 11-30-2007 04:39 AM

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Damn, that was tough only because that d2 vote. But I really got the feeling Jgunnip felt he cracked the game open there. That was soooo villagery.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:40 AM

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yeah, d3 was kinda a disaster

jgunnip did a really good job of clearing himself

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:40 AM

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wow, d1 is really funny if you didn't know your role lolz

nice job chim. wasn't really sure how to go about clearing myself since it was my last end game in a turbo.

chim17 11-30-2007 04:41 AM

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wow, d1 is really funny if you didn't know your role lolz

nice job chim. wasn't really sure how to go about clearing myself since it was my last end game in a turbo.

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You did a good job kinda because you didn't have an answer. When you said "uh I dunno why I switched" I felt ok. A wolf would very rarely say "uh, shrug, your guess is as good as mine"

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:41 AM

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you did good chim

im actually sorta glad you made the reads you made from an unbiased objective standpoint.

chim17 11-30-2007 04:42 AM

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you did good chim

im actually sorta glad you made the reads you made from an unbiased objective standpoint.

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whatcha mean?

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:43 AM

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wow, d1 is really funny if you didn't know your role lolz


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there was only 1 wolf and I found him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chim17 11-30-2007 04:43 AM

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My favorite part was figuring out AJ had to be the best vote. The only way Dustin was a wolf was with AJ, but AJ could be a wolf with a lot of people. So AJ had to be the right play there for the village.

chim17 11-30-2007 04:44 AM

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wow, d1 is really funny if you didn't know your role lolz


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there was only 1 wolf and I found him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I'm glad since I'm still kinda drunk I just skipped over d1 and started at the d1 end of day vote.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:45 AM

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you did good chim

im actually sorta glad you made the reads you made from an unbiased objective standpoint.

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whatcha mean?

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you read jgunnip on tone and thought he cleared himself enough to vote me (who had the better voting record and am kinda unreadable on tone) over him

i like when people make tone-reads because thats what I try and do

chim17 11-30-2007 04:46 AM

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you did good chim

im actually sorta glad you made the reads you made from an unbiased objective standpoint.

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whatcha mean?

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you read jgunnip on tone and thought he cleared himself enough to vote me (who had the better voting record and am kinda unreadable on tone) over him

i like when people make tone-reads because thats what I try and do

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Ah, I see ya.

You both went after AJ. But you are right it came down to the fact Jgunnip seemed flustered and excited in times villagers would be flustered and excited.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:47 AM

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also chim,

all the reasons you said about me not killing Mets N2 were exactly the reasons why I didn't kill him N1- plus I thought killing JJ would be funny. but moreso because of the peek situation

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:48 AM

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You both went after AJ. But you are right it came down to the fact Jgunnip seemed flustered and excited in times villagers would be flustered and excited.

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after jgunnip voted me, I thought my "gg chuck" post was pretty awesome

chim17 11-30-2007 04:48 AM

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also chim,

all the reasons you said about me not killing Mets N2 were exactly the reasons why I didn't kill him N1- plus I thought killing JJ would be funny. but moreso because of the peek situation

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To be honest, your game is good enough that for most people with those benefits I would have cleared them much more. But with you and a handful of others in that type of situation there is just enough doubt.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:51 AM

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im going to chalk this game up to thinking that a sober chim would have over-analyzed and lynched Jgunnip, but Chim was just drunk enough to go with his gut

still a fun game, especially from my perspective of changing roles starting D2. good night

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:51 AM

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yea I was kind of lost d3, it just seemed like AJ was too obvious a wolf almost.

during the night I was trying to figure out who was going to get nk'ed and was actually surprised to see chuck dead.

chim17 11-30-2007 04:52 AM

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im going to chalk this game up to thinking that a sober chim would have over-analyzed and lynched Jgunnip, but Chim was just drunk enough to go with his gut

still a fun game, especially from my perspective of changing roles starting D2. good night

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I do analyze too much, but I explained my issue above. I let a bad decision that I could never see me doing as a villager make me think someone is a wolf. That's terrible, and my biggest WW leak by far.

DustinG 11-30-2007 04:52 AM

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chuck had to die. He couldn't be the wolf and lynch aj > me when we both had 2 votes

jgunnip 11-30-2007 04:55 AM

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chuck had to die. He couldn't be the wolf and lynch aj > me when we both had 2 votes

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yea, i guess that would make sense [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

lastchance 11-30-2007 05:14 AM

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chuck had to die. He couldn't be the wolf and lynch aj > me when we both had 2 votes

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You could have killed chim as well. If he was the wolf, he would also have lynched you ftw (I think). Somewhat less clear than chuck, IIRC, but still doable.

DustinG 11-30-2007 11:13 AM

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aj= wolf

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one thing I wanted to point out from this game was this post. (And remember I thought I was a villager when I made it.

As you may be aware, my metagame requires me to fake seer in every game, and I've stated that I'll always fake with villager peeks, but obviously on n0 it may turn out that I peek a wolf, thus the need for the occasional 'fake fake peek', or alternate fake peek, as was given here.

One thing I will promise, is thats if I actually am the seer, that I will never say xxxx= wolf unless I peeked them. For this reason my fake fake peeks are rare and I need to be pretty sure before I use them. But it gives me another way of getting nk'd and I'm 2/3 so far with it.

Should also point out that I'm like 12/13 with my village peeks since I started doing this.

/metagame


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