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TheEngineer 08-29-2007 09:03 PM

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I am already in, read my post, the sponsors will get one less viewer for their money.

When the time comes, and soon I hope, we will need to send letters to ALL news outlets from many of us who are on board.

Maybe if one picks up the story, even if presented as a few nuts, a momentum will build.

obg

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Cool.

I suggested a boycott a few months ago but no one was interested (didn't have the articles or the latest letter at that time), so I figured I'd take it slower this time to get folks on board. Now I have some guy I never heard of screaming that I'm not doing enough. LOL.

Anyway, I hope we can make a difference. Our problem with the letter is Congress, really. That's where our focus should be....rebutting the letter.

oldbookguy 08-29-2007 09:07 PM

Re: NFL enlists Christian right to fight Barney Frank
 
Help I have leaned often times comes from unlooked for places and as my mother always told me, be careful what you ask for, you might get it.

With that said, a NEW legal Football wagering is emerging and debuts this week.

Fantasy betting.

Major Wager story begins as follows:

story:
http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-ha...statistics.html

The billion-dollar business of fantasy football got another new player Wednesday: Las Vegas oddsmakers.

Station Casinos Inc., the fifth-largest sports book in the country, was to become the first to release a betting line - at 7 p.m. EDT - and start taking wagers based on players' projected fantasy statistics.

obg

Tuff_Fish 08-29-2007 11:02 PM

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I am already in, read my post, the sponsors will get one less viewer for their money.

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I actually think the "trim down" approach is a better one. As it stands, I'll be watching my local games and sending a letter to those that advertise during said broadcasts to inform them I won't be purchasing their product because they were on during an NFL game.

So while droping Sunday ticket, game tickets, etc are important...FOX and CBS receiving questions from their sponsors as to why they're getting letters saying Mr. DBass is not going to buy Miracle Whip because they advertise during NFL games and "what's this about the league trying to restrict freedom?" might do a bit more.

In other words I'm boycotting those that support the NFL more directly.

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This is an excellent approach. It is basically what I said in my email to NFL commisioner. I am gonna watch, but I ain't buying.

Get after the sponsors. They care a lot more.

Tuff

TheEngineer 08-30-2007 10:22 AM

Re: NFL enlists Christian right to fight Barney Frank
 
Let's also write to the House Financial Services Committee
(same note, different addressee):

House Financial Services Committee
Democratic Staff
2129 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

TheEngineer 08-30-2007 10:26 AM

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So you're saying that taking lesser action *will* convince the NFL, but taking the most powerful action a single individual can take will not? That's odd logic.

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No, that's standard logic.

Mondogarage 08-31-2007 11:19 AM

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Thanks for sharing your opinion.

If you'd like to lead a boycott, I encourage you to go for it. You don't need me to agree with your approach. Just take the lead and do it.

The approach I chose to take was to gradually get the ball rolling with some emails to them informing them that we disapprove while being cordial enough to give them an opportunity to respond. If we get nasty (or no) responses, we can use these to get people on board with a boycott, and AT THAT TIME we can escalate our letters up to total boycotts (which could be only a couple of weeks from now). After all, it's not like they're going to quake in their boots over a twenty person boycott.

Anyway, I appoint you leader of the boycott effort. I won't watch any NFL this year just on general principle, so I'm in. What's next?

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I do appreciate anything that anyone is doing, because no steps taken are "bad". It's just a matter of degrees. That said, I can't even remember the last time I intentionally watched an NFL game in the first place. (not for activist reasons, I've just haven't been a football fan for about the last 20 years). 10 years in DC, the last 2 in Denver, and I've not gone to one game. Plenty of Rockies games, though. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Anyway, I'm nobody's boycott leader in this, since there's nothing for me to boycott, but I will follow this with interest.

Legislurker 08-31-2007 12:27 PM

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Thanks for sharing your opinion.

If you'd like to lead a boycott, I encourage you to go for it. You don't need me to agree with your approach. Just take the lead and do it.

The approach I chose to take was to gradually get the ball rolling with some emails to them informing them that we disapprove while being cordial enough to give them an opportunity to respond. If we get nasty (or no) responses, we can use these to get people on board with a boycott, and AT THAT TIME we can escalate our letters up to total boycotts (which could be only a couple of weeks from now). After all, it's not like they're going to quake in their boots over a twenty person boycott.

Anyway, I appoint you leader of the boycott effort. I won't watch any NFL this year just on general principle, so I'm in. What's next?

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I do appreciate anything that anyone is doing, because no steps taken are "bad". It's just a matter of degrees. That said, I can't even remember the last time I intentionally watched an NFL game in the first place. (not for activist reasons, I've just haven't been a football fan for about the last 20 years). 10 years in DC, the last 2 in Denver, and I've not gone to one game. Plenty of Rockies games, though. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Anyway, I'm nobody's boycott leader in this, since there's nothing for me to boycott, but I will follow this with interest.

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As far as "boycotts" go number of claimants and callers/writers is rarely a majority consumer of the product. Bad publicity and a small dip in sales can lead to firings or no bonuses. If we had a million poker players, and they all called in to say no Sunday TIcket, well I doubt they sell a million packages, but they will figure a % of us do. You don't have to like the NFL to be an effective part of a boycott if you are vocal. I wouldnt buy a Chevrolet, Ford, or Chrysler car with your money and a stolen tag, but I will call them on the phone and say I boycott you because you advertize in the NFL.


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