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futuredoc85 11-02-2007 11:58 AM

Re: Jman claims to be +EV vs. Phil Ivey
 
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You guys need to get one thing straight. Phil Ivey is a card shark, which means he actually plays cards. The other Phil plays online poker. A totally different game. One is cards the other is not. Heads up in a real card game with real chips and Ivey is a clear favorite. Online the other guy probably is.

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Is this a meathead guido gimmick account?

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Everypost I see you and Pudge make reminds me of what a sausage party the SHIB's mansion must be like

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well surely you laughed at paulie's post too?

edit: not that i have a clue who is the fav. HU but live or online doesnt change that much, especially HU and esp w/ ivey since hes not really into face/table talk-reading as much as hand-reading anyway

Thrahl 11-02-2007 03:23 PM

Re: Jman claims to be +EV vs. Phil Ivey
 
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Heads up in a real card game with real chips and Ivey is a clear favorite. Online the other guy probably is.

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I don't think he's such a clear favorite. I don't see how anyone who hasn't spent tons of times in headsup matches with both of them can make claims like this with any level of confidence at all.

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Jman said he'd play any Live Pro HU, Except Ivey and Antonius.

unlucky4me 11-02-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Jman claims to be +EV vs. Phil Ivey
 
So, you don't know all poker is not played on a computer then.

Pudge714 11-02-2007 05:29 PM

Re: Jman claims to be +EV vs. Phil Ivey
 
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You guys need to get one thing straight. Phil Ivey is a card shark, which means he actually plays cards. The other Phil plays online poker. A totally different game. One is cards the other is not. Heads up in a real card game with real chips and Ivey is a clear favorite. Online the other guy probably is.

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Is this a meathead guido gimmick account?

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FWIW there is a good poster named PaulieWalnuts. Also this whole thread is so stupid since by playing Ivey HU we can infer Jman thinks he is +EV.

SunyD 11-02-2007 05:34 PM

Re: Jman claims to be +EV vs. Phil Ivey
 
Ivey is a great player... but regarding heads-up, he couldnt make it past round 1 in the past couple NBC Heads Up Championships. Didnt Don Cheadle beat him?

muxplust 11-02-2007 06:01 PM

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It looks like the few people who have actually played over 1k hands against Ivey thinks JMan is a favorite.

I think their opinion is going to mean a lot more then people who have never played him.

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Sniiii 11-02-2007 06:34 PM

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Ivey is a great player... but regarding heads-up, he couldnt make it past round 1 in the past couple NBC Heads Up Championships. Didnt Don Cheadle beat him?

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Yes, lets rate his HU play with one match as basis. *sigh*

mwx 11-02-2007 07:57 PM

Re: Jman claims to be +EV vs. Phil Ivey
 
one HU event wouldnt prove anything. They would have to play 20 times HU before you could get an answer!
The best scenario would be to see them play each other like 20 times online and 20 times live and then we would have some stats to argue!!!

And regardless of all else, Phil Ivey is No.1 PERIOD!!!

mused01 11-02-2007 08:32 PM

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one HU event wouldnt prove anything. They would have to play 20 times HU before you could get an answer!
The best scenario would be to see them play each other like 20 times online and 20 times live and then we would have some stats to argue!!!



And regardless of all else, Phil Ivey is No.1 PERIOD!!!

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lol at thinking 20 sessions is a large enough sample size. esp live

Pudge714 11-02-2007 08:36 PM

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one HU event wouldnt prove anything. They would have to play 20 times HU before you could get an answer!
The best scenario would be to see them play each other like 20 times online and 20 times live and then we would have some stats to argue!!!

And regardless of all else, Phil Ivey is No.1 Exclamation Mark!!!

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